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    25 man raid rotation system

    My 25 man raid generally runs with a roster of 30-35. Given that we do not have any actual 'bench' raiders, does anyone know if there exists a pre-established raid rotation system out there that we can use (and probably tweak to our specific needs)? What I'm looking for is a system that allows each raider to have relatively equal raid time (of course any under performance would override the system), while still allowing us to maintain a proper raid composition.

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    Not that I know of, but youcould always use the officer notes and insert the date when they were last subbed for a raid. Should help atleast on a rotation per class/role
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    You could use a zero sum dkp like system that spreads dkp among the raid and those sitting for the night. When raids are forming those with the most dkp of their role get invites that way it would work out to be the same people who would have gotten loot anyway. Adjustments can be made based off attendance and class requirements.

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    Switch people in/out during the break halfway (if you have a break) or switch people out who don't need any loot from the boss, that's what we do. And there usually is someone who is a bit tired/busy or with gf aggro. Our classleaders try to give everyone equal raiding time (no real system) but sometimes a boss requires a setup.

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    We evolved a points system for tracking rotation. We track it in a google docs spreadsheet for transparency.

    No-one likes to be rotated, everyone likes to raid, but with more raiders than raid slots we obviously have to have some sort of rotation system to ensure no-one gets left out more than is necessary. The rotation spreadsheet keeps track of who is due rotation and when. We tend to rotate by role, which is why you'll see everything colour-coded by tank/healer/dps.

    Stretching off to the right of everyone's names you'll columns sorted by raid dates. In these columns are the numbers that determine whether or not you're due rotation. How we arrive at these numbers is via a point scoring system. You earn or lose points according to the following rules, bear in mind that having more points = more chance of being rotated. Scores are subject to change.

    Cancelled -1 point You can't make the raid, but at least you let us know before selections are done. Have a point off your total for being so considerate.



    Selected +2 points You were selected, you get to raid, you earn 2 points



    Late Cancel +2 point After selections are done, you cancel before the raid, it's a late cancel. Ok, it may have been unavoidable, but it still causes problems for the selection officers. You still get 2 points, it doesn't hurt your chances of selection next time as much as no-show but it still bumps you higher up the rotation roster. For this to be a Late Cancel and not a No-Show, you actually need to let someone know you're not going to be there. You do this by cancelling your signup and alsoposting in the selections thread for that raid.



    No-Shows +4 points BAD raider! You signed, you were selected, then you pulled a disappearing act and left 24 other people waiting and not knowing if you were ever going to show up.



    Not Signing +6 points You didn't sign, you didn't cancel, you just did nothing. We don't know if you're unavailable, available or anything.



    Rotated Reset to 0 When you are rotated, which means you signed on time and you weren't selected, your points are automatically reset back to zero, virtually guaranteeing you selection on the next raid for which you sign. The people with the highest points for each role are most likely to be rotated

    Exceptions:
    The rotation spreadsheet doesn't decide who gets rotated, the Selection Officers do. The spreadsheet is just a tool that we use to help ensure that rotations are done fairly and you can see who was rotated when and why. There are times when we just have to select certain people and rotate others because the raid demands it on that particular night. This may mean that people who are due rotation get selected. All we can do is apologise in advance, try to limit the number of times we're forced to do this.

    People don't intentionally set out to screw the raid over. You could have a power cut, you may have to work late, there could be some sort of family emergency, your PC could get eaten by your dog. There are any number of reasons why you may fail to show up or not be able to sign. We understand this, and we're quite happy to listen to any explanation and adjust points accordingly. We just ask that you be honest with us and we'll be fair to you.

    Hopefully from the spreadsheet you'll always be able to see why you were rotated on any given night, and more importantly that you were rotated for a good reason.

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    @ swelt
    sounds interesting, can you share or pm the link to have a closer look?
    Cheers

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    Hi swelt, is possible to pm that excel so i can use it?

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