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Thread: Gone arcane - many questions

  1. #81
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    You are actually out dpsing him on the adds. His actual damage number may be higher due to the fact that he has fewer people in his group AoEing than you do, so they live longer, so he has more time to damge them.
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    This deals more with the nature of dps.

    As a general rule of thumb, arcane's dps and DPSE will always decrease as a fight gets shorter. For example for me to parse on a fight like H domo, not only do I have to be doing 50k+ dps, but I need everyone in my raid group to doing 45k+ dps, so that we can push him down fast enough that I will only get three burn phases.

    Also your group's comp will force you to AoE more then it will let you single target dps, this will most likely hurt your over all dps unless you get in a really clutch burn. But remember good arcane dps is a group effort, I can't pull 50k+ dps on H domo unless my whole raiding group is pushing 45k+ also.
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    Thanks again for taking the time to answer my post, Leethaxor. First of all, I have a question: What is DPSE? Secondly, what are saying? Are you saying that it is not my fault individually that my dps is lower than the other mages? But that it is due to the fact that my group generally performed worse than the other mage? Is that How I'm supposed to understand it?

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    What is DPSE?
    DPSE or DPSe is short hand for Damage Per Second Effective. Normal dps meters you have ingame like recount and skada measure dps by averaging how much damage you do in one second, then average this compared to how much damage you did in every other second of the encounter. This gives you DPS or Damage Per Second. DPSe is well easier, DPSe is your total damage done, divide by encounter length. You can see these two numbers can be displayed on WoL, and DPSe is a nice thing to do when you see people link 20k dps at lvl 60, and then see that they did that in 4 seconds.

    Are you saying that it is not my fault individually that my dps is lower than the other mages?
    Yes and no. Doing good dps in firelands is highly subjective. Even if you are the best mage in the world, if your stuck on the ground for alys, your dps is going to suck compared to mages that are flying. If you have to be AoE'ing more then single target... It is likely that you will be lower dps then people who aren't AoE'ing. But necessarily this isn't always how it works, so it is something you have to be aware of.
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    Try using this tool. It will let you see what the significant differences are. In this case, he's single targetting more than you.

    http://raidbots.com/comparebot/

    http://raidbots.com/comparebot/4e8873314b1cfbf110000154#damage

    The second linke is the damage breakdown for you and him.
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    He was a lot of his damage was to oozes which is a nice way to stack to meters on that fight.
    [Today 06:48 PM] Ion:swimming in a natural body of water ISN'T acceptable...it's momentarily tolerable

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    Thanks, Leethaxor! This is a very effective tool. =)

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