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    Thunderclap/Shockwave = Ranged?

    IIRC Thunderclap/Shockwave are ranged attacks. Does that mean that the Gnomish X-Ray Scope can proc off of Thunderclap and Shockwave? If so. Jawsome.
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    I think they are counted as aoe attacks, not ranged attacks. This means they still cannot be dodged or parried, but they are treated as melee aoe, not ranged aoe.

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    As far as I can recall, thunderclap counted as a ranged attack at one point in time. I think that changed early to mid wrath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martie View Post
    As far as I can recall, thunderclap counted as a ranged attack at one point in time. I think that changed early to mid wrath.
    I think TC was changed with either the pre-cata mechanics drop or with cata's drop. It used to be the only tanking enchant for range weapons was the crit strike one, for increased TC crits. Now, I have yet to see anyone say there is a useful weapon enchant for warriors, DPS or Tank.
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    Thunderclap was changed to a ranged attack from a spell attack for hit. This made it hit more frequently, and I believe it happened pre-4.0.1.
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    The effect of gnomish X-ray scope is + range attack power, so I assume it's not so useful?
    I'm currently using the +range hit scope, seems to be working on shockwave.

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    TC & SW are ranged abilities that scale with melee AP.
    Ranged AP or damage scopes will not work, but rating scopes will.

    Edit: Same goes for Heroic Shoe .. I mean Throw, Heroic Throw!!
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    Who throws a shoe? Honestly....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarTotem View Post
    TC & SW are ranged abilities that scale with melee AP.
    Ranged AP or damage scopes will not work, but rating scopes will.

    Edit: Same goes for Heroic Shoe .. I mean Throw, Heroic Throw!!
    Hmm... Then I guess I've been bad not throwing the +88 hit rating enchant of my gun... oops.
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    Do boots count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarTotem View Post
    TC & SW are ranged abilities that scale with melee AP.
    Ranged AP or damage scopes will not work, but rating scopes will.

    Edit: Same goes for Heroic Shoe .. I mean Throw, Heroic Throw!!
    Just tested it, and at least TC is NOT affected by ranged hit rating:

    http://img847.imageshack.us/i/39691378.jpg
    http://img844.imageshack.us/i/55863907.jpg

    No misses for SW so far, but 104 is of course not a sufficient sample size. 17sec CD is a bitch for testing such things. Didn't test the shoe, obviously.

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    Weird ... they must've changed in Cataclysm then, cause I ran a 600+ hit test back in tBC (G15 button repeat macro helps) and definately found TC to get Ranged hit back then.

    Now if only I get a sucker to test crit...
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    the tooltip says the scope affects "its" hit rating, which seems to indicate it only affects the gun's attacks, not all ranged attacks.

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    Strangely enough, this is true for Safety Catch Removal Kit and most pre-cata scopes, but not for R19 Threatfinder.
    Sun Scope even says 'your ranged haste rating'. Weird, really.

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