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    Signet of the Elder Council

    http://www.wowhead.com/item=62362/si...uncil#comments

    With reforging the stats become:
    +190 Agility
    +286 Stamina
    +127 Haste -> +77 Haste / +50 Parry or Dodge
    +127 Mastery

    From what I read elsewhere it appears that all that Agility gives around 115 dodge rating and it is a BiS tank ring on a popular paladin tanking forum. It certainly appears to be a lot better than a lot of the 346 tank rings in terms of avoidance and mastery and also fairly easy to obtain as it is a rep item.


    Currently I am using these (2) rings.
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=58187
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=56332
    Last edited by Ironfaith; 03-04-2011 at 10:30 AM.

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    Depends on your class, paladin need way less agility then eg a warrior for 1% dodge (304 vs 430). As a warrior i tend to stick to Therazane reverded ring.

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    I am also thinking about using the Signet. Currently i am using http://www.wowhead.com/item=62351 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=56444 . Another epic ring is not reachable in the near future (well expect anything dropping from the brand new ZA and ZG coming in patch 4.1)

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    I would replace the umbriss band with the earthen ring-ring

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    Thanks! Then i'll get the Signet in the next few days (3100 reputation missing .. last cataclysm fraction to get exalted)

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    Signet of the Elder Council

    On my Prot Pally I was surprised to see a nice increase in dodge and stamina over my Felsen Ring.

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    As klausi stated above: as a pally you need way less agi for 1% dodge than a warrior and i am a warrior

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    Use it, it's a great ring for tanking and the 400 AP you lose isn't noticeable when Vengeance gives you 10K AP. It's working great next to my Ring of the Battle Anthem.

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    The paladin tank in our team uses it. Test out some numbers in World of Logs and see how it works out for you.

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    Warriors getting gimped I'm forced to use the Valor DPS Str ring

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    On my pally i chose to use the Red rock band ring (346 reputation vendor).
    My other choices would have been any heroic dungeon ring, that agil ring mentioned above, and the JC ring (with a gem slot).
    Although its a expertise/mastery ring instead of a preferable avoidance/mastery, its sheer amout of mastery is not proportional with its Ilvl and pays off imho (it gives *gasp* 168 mastery). Since the zan-dalari tank ring is parry/dodge, both now subject to heavy DR, I get more hit table coverage using the Red band. The zan dalari dps ring gives less mastery and haste (useless) as a second stat.
    Comparing the red rock band to the Signet of the Elder council, its 40 more mastery and instead of haste you will have leftover expertise, best threat stat for pallys. The signet gives some more dodge from agil, but it would be around .5% pre-DR, and your losing the str that converts to parry and AP.
    I beleive the Red Rock Band is the best ring (by a fairly large margin) to use along with the VP ring for tanking untill you get some nice raid drop.
    Last edited by aresius; 05-12-2011 at 10:42 AM.

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    The Signet of the Elder Council is better than the Red Rock Band because of the Stamina gain.


    Red Rock Band
    +120 Strength == +30 Parry
    +252 Stamina
    +98 Expertise -> +59 Expertise / +39 Parry/Dodge
    +168 Mastery


    Signet of the Elder Council
    +190 Agility == +46 Dodge
    +286 Stamina
    +127 Haste -> +77 Haste / +50 Parry or Dodge
    +127 Mastery



    Signet vs Red Rock Differences:
    -30 Parry
    +46 Dodge
    +34 Stamina
    +11 Parry/Dodge
    -41 Mastery
    ------
    +27 Dodge/Parry, +34 Stamina, -41 Mastery



    If it were just Dodge/Parry vs Mastery, then yes Mastery wins. But 34 stamina plus the dodge/parry imo makes the Signet better. No one doing progression should care about threat stats because of Vengeance, so the Expertise gain is moot point(and if you want to go there you have to account for the Crit from Agi as well).

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