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  1. #241
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    Hrm, even at 13% chance, only coming off of your Mortal Strike, I don't think you can clearly remove CS from your rotation since it is such a huge damage boost to your other abilities.

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    390 Gurthalak or 397 Ataraxis ?


    I have both http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/78487


    and http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/77224

    I made my way over to the test dummies, and im seeing about 4-5k loss using voice over ataraxis according to recount.

    I went into config, and it appears recount is registering the proc.... kinda? it dosnt show up in my abilities, but if I sperate pets, it then shows the damage. the avg appears to include the proc regardless, but in any event..... my dps seems a good 4-5k lower.


    thoughts?

    I even tried out fury with voice in the main hand and found the same result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truculent View Post
    390 Gurthalak or 397 Ataraxis ?


    I have both http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/78487


    and http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/77224

    I made my way over to the test dummies, and im seeing about 4-5k loss using voice over ataraxis according to recount.

    I went into config, and it appears recount is registering the proc.... kinda? it dosnt show up in my abilities, but if I sperate pets, it then shows the damage. the avg appears to include the proc regardless, but in any event..... my dps seems a good 4-5k lower.


    thoughts?

    I even tried out fury with voice in the main hand and found the same result.
    i tried both in back to back weekly raids. one sample of each is not exactly scientific, but on ultraxion i did quite a bit more with the 397 (and i did stand close enough for the tentacle to reach).

    390 sword: 37k
    397 axe: 39.5k

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    Quote Originally Posted by marklar View Post
    i tried both in back to back weekly raids. one sample of each is not exactly scientific, but on ultraxion i did quite a bit more with the 397 (and i did stand close enough for the tentacle to reach).

    390 sword: 37k
    397 axe: 39.5k
    Im basically seeing similar results to what you discribing. I might use the 390 for fights that require high aoe damage, but I really havent seen the 390 top the 397 in any way shape or form yet.
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    Hey guys.
    Ive tried to run simcraft for arms and it confused me. The difference between my warrior(395ilvl) and BiS warrior is like 6-7k DPS. Is it just broken or am i missing something?

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    Could you give a little more info about what you did?

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    yeah i can ,i was just wondering if simcraft is working properly for arms ? If yes i will look into it a bit more and give you some info.

    I just ran my char and it told me that i should be doing alot more dps than im doing now , but the diff is like at least 10k, maybe i am bad but idk
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...а/simple armory

    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-cv...?s=5648&e=5864 idk if you can change the language , cuz its ru :\
    simcraft suggests that i should be doing around 47k

    im sure im doing something wrong and the rotation isnt ideal but 10k seems a lot of dps lost
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    Well Simcraft does the rotation perfectly, with every raid buff and debuff provided. ANd even with those perfect conditions it gives you an average. Look at the DPS Range figure, with the sims of my tank its a whopping 6% variation due to RNG. Try simming with the global options set to whatever is most apllicable to you and only the raid (de)buffs you actually have available, and that the global options match your own and make sure that the rotation simcraft is performing matches your own, if they don't you're gonna get large variations.

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    i think it's fairly close. simcraft says i should do 45.7k on a patchwerk fight, given my raid buffs. my average dps on ultraxion H is ~43k, so given the interruptions due to porting out, i'd say that's about right.

  10. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by petska View Post
    im sure im doing something wrong and the rotation isnt ideal but 10k seems a lot of dps lost
    Well just from that log its clear you are not doing your rotation optimal.

    The major flaw being that you seem to delay MS. You have less than 9 MS/minute and you should have no less than 11/minute. You can also press in more OP and Slams - so go pratice a bit more on the target dummy to fine-tune the rotation.

    Besides that the use of you cooldowns can be improved:
    - you only used Blood Fury once and you could have used it twice
    - you didnt use any Golem Blood Potion
    - your proc Find Weakness proc isnt very well sync'ed with Deadly Calm. Try to pop DC as soon as Find Weakness procs - then they will line up nicely the second time as well. You might also as use Blood Fury at the same time as well since its also on a 2min CD.
    - save Recklessness(+Golem Blood Potion) for the Execute-phase

    Using CD's properly is a huge part of doing optimal DPS.
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    yeah thank you guys , turns out i was doing alot of stuff wrong.

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