The Cataclysmic fury Warrior Guide

[Speech]

Honestly? My dps has been pretty bad in raids because I've been testing random things like SMF viability (btw it's not good), inner rage, plus learning new fights kinda sucks. I think I've got things down now though so if you're still interested I can let you know next raid or next raid reset.

Do you have any numbers for this? Ive been running smf since lvl 84 and am just now getting another 2h for TG. Im interested in the difference i should see.

[Yves]

Honestly? My dps has been pretty bad in raids because I've been testing random things like SMF viability (btw it's not good), inner rage, plus learning new fights kinda sucks. I think I've got things down now though so if you're still interested I can let you know next raid or next raid reset.

Though if it helps at all I did 15,307 on Argaloth when I was just playing normally, but I've gotten a few important upgrades since then. And 15k seems pretty low (at least it does to me), but I somehow ranked 65th on WoL. Maybe it's just because most people are doing 10 man though.

Thats still pretty good, but i am sure we can get higher.
I am having more issues to get it right.
12k dps tops so far, rage regen is a major issue, and god knows what else

[squats]

I hope I'm not going to far off subject with this. But I just wanted to throw this out here.

I really wish blizzard would give us more interesting enchants for our weapons than just procced AP. something like mongoose or life drain or random damage or something that is actually run and interesting. And before anyone says it. Yes I know that the 1k or so AP that we get from landslide is better than what any of the proposed enchants. If the static AP enchants never happend. We wouldn't know better.

[Yves]

I hope I'm not going to far off subject with this. But I just wanted to throw this out here.

I really wish blizzard would give us more interesting enchants for our weapons than just procced AP. something like mongoose or life drain or random damage or something that is actually run and interesting. And before anyone says it. Yes I know that the 1k or so AP that we get from landslide is better than what any of the proposed enchants. If the static AP enchants never happend. We wouldn't know better.

I have seen some use mongoose on their current weapons.
Have not tried it myself yet

[squats]

I have seen some use mongoose on their current weapons.
Have not tried it myself yet

My point was more that I want the optimal enchants to be more fun. Yeah you can use hurricane or avalanche or mongoose. But they arnt as good

[Erkebrand]

The Cataclysmic sunderbot !

Since we dont normally run with any warriortanks in guild, I've been using the following opening rotation the get sunders up as quickly and dps-efficiently as possible.

Prerequisite:
1) To be able to do the following I've glyphed: Berserkerage, Colossus Smash and Heroic Throw
2) I've macroed Heroic Throw to Intercept
3) I've made a specifik opening macro that pops Battleshout/Berserkerage to get the initial 37 rage and become enraged at the get go.
4) I presume the target have normal aggro-range and that you have to stand at range before pull("activationbosses", like Suarfang in ICC, is an example where this does not apply)

Opening rotation:
# initiation of combat(tank pull)
0.0 BS/BR (remember Battleshout uses a GCD - so dont use the intercept/heroic throw macro too soon); 37 rage gained
1.5 Intercept (intercept is off GCD but Heroic Throw is not); 1st Sunder Stack/10 rage used
3.0 Colossus Smash; 2nd Sunder Stack/20 rage used - initiation of whiteattacks
4.5 Bloodthirst
6.0 Raging Blow
7.5 Bloodthirst
9.0 Free GCD -> Sunder Armor; 3rd Sunder Stack

After that the rotation is as it normally is - and you dont have to think about Sunders anymore if you keep Colossus Smash on CD on that target.

Flaws ?

[squats]

Have a Druid of any type feri fire. It's the same thing but lasts longer.

[Erkebrand]

True - or a rogue(expose) or a hunter(with raptor/serpent) could also apply the debuff, but off the point since the premise(i've could have specified that..) was the that warrior had to apply the debuff.

[Thegreatme]

3) I've made a specifik opening macro that pops Battleshout/Berserkerage to get the initial 37 rage and become enraged at the get go.

you can start any boss fight with a full rage bar given enough time simply by using zerker rage and battle shout on cooldown.

also, as far as I am aware, the CS glyph doesn't apply sunder, it simply refreshes the duration

[Erkebrand]

...also, as far as I am aware, the CS glyph doesn't apply sunder, it simply refreshes the duration

I does apply another stack - just not the first.

[Enable]

Should I still macro Heroic strike to abilities or use it when deemed necessary. Right now I still have it macro'd to my BT and RB. It isn't killing my rage as my white damage still generates enough to use it plus the ability each time through the rotation. Is this still efficient or saving it and using it during my battle trances better?

[Symph]

Do you have any numbers for this? Ive been running smf since lvl 84 and am just now getting another 2h for TG. Im interested in the difference i should see.

Honestly the logs were so bad I'm too embarrassed to post them. I probably exaggerated a little. SMF isn't awful, but it's only viable if your 1 handers are better than your 2 handers. I'll probably test it out again if I manage to get 2 epic 1 handers before 2 handers. Considering we run 4 ret paladins and only one DK, that seems very likely. I'll post more if I decide to mess around with it again.

Should I still macro Heroic strike to abilities or use it when deemed necessary. Right now I still have it macro'd to my BT and RB. It isn't killing my rage as my white damage still generates enough to use it plus the ability each time through the rotation. Is this still efficient or saving it and using it during my battle trances better?

Don't do this. I honestly don't see how you're not having rage problems doing this. I use heroic strike very sparingly and my gear is decent and I still never have excess rage.

[Enable]

Don't do this. I honestly don't see how you're not having rage problems doing this. I use heroic strike very sparingly and my gear is decent and I still never have excess rage.

I don't really ever have excess rage but I always have rage to keep up the rotation every 1.5 seconds. The benefit is that when there is excess rage it takes care of it automatically. I'm just curious if I should save Heroic Strike for my trance when it procs or keep it macro'd.

[Adamus]

I have a question maybe someone could develop a macro to one rotation (one button dps)

[squats]

I have a question maybe someone could develop a macro to one rotation (one button dps)

Don't be lazy. These never work. Our rotation is a priorety list..

[Yves]

Are you sure you want to play a warrior, if ur asking this kind of question!

[Robix]

Is there any particular order one should farm the various fraction rep? Which would fury benefit most from and which is the crap?

[Nez]

Is there any particular order one should farm the various fraction rep? Which would fury benefit most from and which is the crap?

http://www.tankspot.com/showthread.p...s-for-Warriors

[Robix]

Link doesn't work.
Searching it manually doesn't hit any thread.
Searching using ID 72489 sends me back to this thread....I must be blind then, still can't find any info.

Thanks for trying to share.

/Robix

[Kazeyonoma]

it's because he linked it to a donor only forum thread, here, i'll shove the info here for you to use.
note, it doesn't directly answer your question about which faction to get first, it depends entirely on what piece you need most or value the the most, and which pieces you think are better off grabbing from justice points.




Just something I threw together really quick sorted by faction so I know which ones to go to first, figured others could use it too, but it's too poorly thrown together to be turned into a guide in the other forums. enjoy!

short guide for warrior reputations in cataclysm:


Earthen Ring Faction - Desired rep to achieve - Revered
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62355 - Plate Tanking Legs - Honored
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62366 - Stam/Dodge Arcanum - Revered


Hellscream's Reach - Desired rep to achieve - Exalted (PVP faction for Tol'Barad)
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62454 - 552 dps 2handed sword - Revered
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62464 - Mastery trinket with str on use (tanking or dps) - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62466 - Mastery trinket with resists on use (tanking) - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=65356 - Flying mount - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=64999 - Ground mount - Exalted


Ramkahen - Desired rep to achieve - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62437 - Str DPS Cloak - Honored
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62440 - Str/stam/exp/mastery ring - Revered
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62447 - Dps neck - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=63044 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=63045 - Ground mount - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62449 - Tanking bracers - exalted


Therazane - Desired rep to achieve - Exalted (Similar to Sons of Hodir, quest to get out of Hated -> Honored, then daily to exalted)
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62344 - Str/crit shoulder enchant - Honored
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62347 - Agi/mastery shoulder enchant - Honored
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62321 - Stam/dodge shoulder enchant - Honored
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62351 - Tanking ring - Revered
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62350 - Dps ring - Revered
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62345 - Str/crit shoulder enchant - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62346 - Agi/mastery shoulder enchant - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62333 - Stam/dodge shoulder enchant - Exalted


Dragonmaw Clan - Desired rep to achieve - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62368 - Str/mastery arcanum - Revered
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62408 - Dps gloves - Revered
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62410 - Tanking helm - Revered
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62418 - Tanking boots - Exalted


Guardians of Hyjal - Desired rep to achieve - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62375 - Dps ring - Honored
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62376 - Tanking neck - Honored
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62382 - Dps Boots - Revered
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62384 - Dps Belt - Exalted
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62383 - Tanking cloak - Exalted


Justice Point vendor in Orgrimmar/Stormwind:

Neck: - 1250 jp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=57930 - DPS neck
http://www.wowhead.com/item=57932 - Tanking neck

Offhand: - 950 jp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=57929 - offhand str 1hander (SMF spec fury?)
http://www.wowhead.com/item=57926 - Shield

Chest: - 2200 jp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58101 - tanking chest
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58096 - dps chest

Waist: - 1650 jp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=57913 - dps belt
http://www.wowhead.com/item=57914 - tanking belt

Legs: - 2200 jp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58097 - dps legs
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58102 - tanking legs

Head: - 2200 jp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58098 - dps helm
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58103 - tanking helm

Hands: - 1650 jp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58105 - tanking gloves
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58099 - dps gloves

Shoulders: - 1650 jp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58104 - tanking pauldrons
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58100 - dps pauldrons

adding in valor point purchases for tanking:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58192 - 1250 vp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=60329 - 2200 vp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=60332 - 1650 vp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=60330 - 2200 vp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58197 - 1650 vp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58187 - 1250 vp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58182 - 1650 vp