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    Quote Originally Posted by Zrg View Post
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...r&cn=Z%C3%BArg
    How is my gear now? What gear should i go for? And what raids can i do?
    Sorry for so many questions, but I just want to be doing the right stuff.
    Thank You all.
    Change all gems but the ones in your legs to 30 stam, there's no need to match the bonuses for anything else. Also change your glove enchant to 18 stam or 240 armor as 2% threat is negligible and if your threat is bad it won't help you. Your belt needs a belt buckle so you can get a free 30 stam as well. Enchant chest for 275 hp and shield for 18 stam as you can safely drop to 536 defense with that shoulder enchant active.
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    just don't let them melee you up the bum.

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    Alright, im low on G right now, so i gotta save up for all the stam gems, ty for help.

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    Also, you can get stam gems from emblems of triumph, stone keeper shards, and honor (and I guess sort of through arena points also if you really wanted to do that).
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    Also change your glove enchant to 18 stam or 240 armor as 2% threat is negligible and if your threat is bad it won't help you.
    I cant find this enchant anywhere, i want the 18 stam one. Also could someone check out my armory http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...r&cn=Z%C3%BArg i dont know if i used wrong enchants. Right now im at 438 Defense, but i have the shoulder enchant with resilience rating.

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    ah, what gold, i seem to have too many holes in my pockets... hehehe... i'll have to raid somebody's pocket...
    re-gemming to +30 stam = need more gold, or a very understanding JC friend who gave me 2 +30stam, 1 nightmare tear, and +stam earthsiege diamond...

    looking at this Verdigris Chain Belt http://www.wowhead.com/item=50991 for first Frost Emblem purchase, i skipped the sentinel cloak for now.

    Buy from AH, or from friend ( http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchantments_by_slot)
    +240 armor on gloves = glove reinforcement, leather working...
    +18 stam = heavy borean armor kit, leather working
    +2% threat = Armsman enchant

    also found that Frosthide Legarmor (+55stam +22 agi) on those pillars of might very good match.

    and also you have 538 defense, not 438...

    also, if i don't get any better drops, i'll probably emblem buy 2pc, of next armor set, just for added 2pc bonus...

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...wer&cn=Septimx
    Last edited by SeptimX; 06-07-2010 at 11:40 PM.

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    I really dont know what Frost item to purchase First, it's Between http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50466 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50991...
    Should i Follow this guide http://www.tankingtips.com/2009/12/2...st-pick-order/. Im really not sure.
    Im at 48 Frost right now, and all raids reset tomorrow, so i think i could hit 60 frost tomorrow, with a daily heroic.
    the cloak is 48 frost, and the belt is 60.

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    for me, i am personally aiming for the belt, add eternal belt buckle, 3 gems slots = +90 stam...
    51 frost for me, daily heroic or 2 when maintenance is finished, and just in time for my weekly = exactly 60 frost for the belt, hehehe...

    cloak, i still make do with tattered castle drape a friend sent me... and am praying for a nice cloak drop when doing heroic dungeons and such...

    breastplate of white knight, getting this made, enchanted with 275hp as soon as crusader orbs trickle in from friends, should tide me awhile
    as i save up the gold to buy primordial saronite or simply buy icc kingly boots and pillars of might...

    next frost emblem buy would either be the Helm or Shoulder, 2pc tier bonus if applicable, or simply pray for a good drop while farming dungeons etc...

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    Niether of the previously mentioned items are 'make or break'. Take your pick.

    The Belt is BiS for all-round EH, and you'll get all your Emblem of Frost
    iLevel 264 264 loot, including 4/5 Tier 10.5 (iLevel 264), before you even get close to the iLevel 277 Belt from Rotface (I mention this cause it's the only item that's comparable to the Emblem of Frost Belt) anyway - the decision can only be made based on personal preference.

    Also, since I'm talking to both of you, in the one reply, it's even moreso individual based, in terms of both personal preference and what you currently have in that slot.Here's a bit of a challenge for you both, and don't take this the wrong way;

    Before you reply here next, choose your next upgrade and gem / enchant it - I'm interested to see if any of what's been posted by the ~ 10 people in this thread has actually given you more of an insight on the Warrior design.

    Good luck. :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeptimX View Post
    for me, i am personally aiming for the belt, add eternal belt buckle, 3 gems slots = +90 stam...
    51 frost for me, daily heroic or 2 when maintenance is finished, and just in time for my weekly = exactly 60 frost for the belt, hehehe...

    cloak, i still make do with tattered castle drape a friend sent me... and am praying for a nice cloak drop when doing heroic dungeons and such...

    breastplate of white knight, getting this made, enchanted with 275hp as soon as crusader orbs trickle in from friends, should tide me awhile
    as i save up the gold to buy primordial saronite or simply buy icc kingly boots and pillars of might...

    next frost emblem buy would either be the Helm or Shoulder, 2pc tier bonus if applicable, or simply pray for a good drop while farming dungeons etc...
    I've only just realized .. there's a goblin in the system(thread), chewin' on the wires(advice).

    I don't mean to ruffle ya feathers here mate, but you're giving some pretty bad advice.

    If you need help, feel free to make a threat in the "HALP! I need advice" thread too.

    Since I have a bit of free time, I'll post some pointers here for you before I have to head off for work, in a completely random, and unordered fashion.

    • * Change your META to this.
      * Change your Shoulder enchant to this. Read the previous pages for reasoning as to why.
      * Change your Shoulder gem to +30 Stamina. Gemming Defense/Stamina in that slot was a silly choice, as you gain virtually nothing in terms of noticeable change.
      * Enchant your Cloak with +225 Armor.
      * Regem your Chest to +30 Stamina in both slots.
      * Enchant your Chest with +275 Health.
      * Change your Bracer enchant to +40 Stamina.
      * Regem your Bracers to +30 Stamina in both slots.
      * I won't comment on Gloves, but regardless of what your actual Gloves are, they should have +30 Stamina in them and be enchanted with either +18 Stamina or +240 Armor.
      * Regem your Belt to +30 Stamina.
      * Regem your Legs to +30 Stamina and +10 Dodge / +15 Stamina.
      * Enchant your Legs with this.
      * Enchant your Shield with +18 Stamina.
      * Enchant your Weapon with a Titanium Weapon Chain.


    Respec to this. Your current spec is missing 3/3 Imp. Heroic Strike, which is quite a lot of threat whilst tanking in raids. You're also glyphed for Last Stand instead of Taunt, and you have next to no hit.

    Edit: I haven't calculated anything yet, but if you're below 536 Defense after you change everything (if you do), re-enchant your Shield with +20 Defense and your Chest with +22 Defense. Like I said, only if you're below 536 Defense.


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    dgen no offense taken, all your advice i'll be putting to good use, as soon as the emblems and gold trickle in. (and Drops too)

    (imho: me posting in this thread, because i can relate to him, i don't want to waste space, posting my own thread, with everyone replying much the same thing, and having me go look for it under daily new threads of mostly the same topic again and again. )

    basically, i am a 3week old tank, and just started posting and reading up here, especially agg's guide, to which i'll be following meticulously this coming days.
    so am still in the process of re-gemming most of my gear (including the meta) to get more +30 stam and a nightmare tear that a friend donated, and the different enchants for them.

    i was wearing my mining gloves running in outland when the server started 24hour maintenance...
    but when i am tanking, defense is around 553, unbuffed for me.
    Last edited by SeptimX; 06-08-2010 at 09:35 PM.

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    Just got http://www.wowhead.com/item=50760 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=50991 today, gotta go farm so i can get some gold to fill in the gems slots. I will put a belt buckle on also. Since this is a weapon that will last me a while should i put a better enchant than Titanium Weapon Chain???? Ty

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    good for you mate!

    titanium weapon chain is by far the cheapest enchant you can buy from AH, my experience it averages bet 30 to 50 gold only. i craft and sell them at 40g

    from Agg's guide:
    I) Weapon Enchant:
    This is a highly debated topic. The enchants are as follows:
    Titanium Weapon Chain: 28 hit http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41976
    Accuracy: 25hit/25crit http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44496
    Mongoose: Proc of 120 Agi and small haste http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22559
    Blade ward: Stackable Parry Buff Proc http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46027
    Blood Draining: Stacks a buff that heals you if you drop below 35% http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46348

    I personally would use: Mongoose for threat, Blade Ward for Avoidance, Blood Draining for EHP.

    Blood Draining is a smart heal when you need it, in my opinion in a crisis situation where you drop below 35% health, it might as well be an extra temporary 4k EHP (the proc heals for about 2k HP). This is the EHP enchant. Mongoose has some value when it procs, but for warriors the uptime of Mongoose is too low for it to be useful imo. I don’t have a link to it, but for warriors Blade Ward is more avoidance than mongoose according to current theorycraft.

    Some of this is up to debate and personal preference. I am a stack EHP proponent, so I say go with Blood Draining.
    imho: the weapon i'll keep longer will get blood draining, to help me last in a long fight with new healer.
    while my 2nd will probably get mongoose, and maybe help with trash mob control to boot...

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