I'm trying to figure out a way to word this nicely and carefully...
I have raided with threat stats that are ridiculously low, with weapons that are not optimal for threat. With the exception of maybe 1 or 2 10expterist/15stam gems that match +9 or +12 socket bonuses, I have never gemmed or enchanted for threat... ever. And I can guarantee that the top of the line, decked out DPS that I have raided with do FAR more TPS (and DPS) than any PuG raid. I am below expertise cap, way below the melee hit cap, and still easily pull 10k+ TPS. Back in Ulduar I was easily pulling 8k+ TPS. In ToC25 I ran with hit as low as 22, and never ever had threat problems. And again, we had monster DPS that did tons of threat and were ranked in WoL. I am exceedingly confused as to why you are so dismissive to the idea that a tank won't have threat problems if they are doing things correctly and am further confused by the statement, "It is possible to have threat issues and not be your fault."
I have looked at Armory after Armory, dealt with case after case, looked through thread after thread, combat log after combat log, and have never once come across a case where someone had a threat problem that was "doing it right."
There have been extensive threads on this matter, and if you would like me to point you to them, I will gladly do so. It is NOT necessarily to gem and enchant for threat. The way that you can do your job most proficiently to help out the raid, is by doing your #1 job the best: surviving. If you die, the raid wipes, end of discussion. If other members of the raid mouth breathe it up and die, then that is there problem and is completely irrelevant to this thread.
As far as HoT healing goes, I can agree to an extent, however I don't think HoTs can do enough single target HPS to overcome some of the damage done in hardmodes (i.e. progression). I will agree that increasing the number of HoTs on the tank makes healing appear less granular. I can also agree that HoTs definitely make EHP better, but I don't necessarily see the need to state specifically that, since ultimately the best and most optimal tank healing is more granular. I also don't really get what the "point" is other than HoTs are good, which I definitely agree with, and I think that's well implied with the arguments about being able to survive 5.1 hits instead of 5 or something like that.
Again, this entire thing is based on progression. If you want to be a better tank and you don't outgear the fights, this is what you do. At the point in time you just flat out gear it to the point that you could gem spirit, then none of this really matters.
I'm also a firm believer that this is what PuG tanks should follow too. I have zero gear from hardmodes, I have very few pieces of gear that a PuG cannot either get or get something better than (even though I have 258 gear, there is accessible 264 gear that a PuG can get, I just never saw it drop). All the rest of my gear I got from frost emblems or PuGs, since I have retired from raiding full time. And when I do PuG, I have zero problems holding threat, being healed, or anything. My gear setup, or a setup that is better, can be attained without doing anything more than a general PuG is capable of, with the exception of probably my weapon and H-Jug's Vit and H-Band of the Twin Valks.
Our druid healers are usually more focused on raid heals, but keep HoTs rolling on me, btw. They like it, but it is not their primary concern.
Like... if I actually have made an error in the advice I should give, then prove me wrong, but so far you have no proof other than to say "well some tanks have threat issues."
I would contend that any issues secondary to why EHP mechanics work the way they do can already be answered in either my prot war guide or a various smattering of posts already existent in these forums.
And yes, I do not want this thread going outside the scope of the why behind EHP. If you want to make THAT thread and deal with THOSE issues, then be my guest. I think what I've written is more that sufficient.
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