Why yes we did. Apparently this topic is another one that qualifies for a strobe light sticky. Since I lack a strobe light........
Originally Posted by Aggathon
Look its not that hit and expertise do not increase your threat, they do. However they do so on a much smaller scale than people realize.
How all tanks generate threat (Listed from the highest source to the lowest):
1) Using your abilities properly. This is paramount, nothing increase your threat more than this.
2) Spec and Glyphs.
3) Proper use of external abilities such as TotT and MD.
4) 26 Expertise Skill.
5) Hit rating.
Stacking stamina is not mindless unless you do not understand why you should be doing it. Tanks that do not min/max their survival by stacking stamina (or armor where available) through gems and enchants are only doing their raid a disservice. Most tanks including myself tanked Heroic ToGC 25 with as little as 40 hit rating and are now also in ICC with as little as 16 expertise rating. These tanks are working with DPS that are pulling 10k+ on most fights and doing just fine without reaching the hit cap or the expertise soft cap.
If a tank is having threat issues no amount of expertise or hit is going to correct that, see #1.
There is something so appealing about backhanding someone across the face with a shield.