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Thread: Losing Impale / DW for Imp Demo - is it worth it?

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    Fenier, I'm not doubting your post at all but I would be interested to see any hard data which supports the numbers you are giving out. As far as I know, the only solid conclusions in regard to bosses I have seen come from beast lore on Maexxna, and basing everything on one data point seems a bit questionable to me--especially as this is actually extremely difficult to confirm in terms of data-gathering.

    Perhaps testing has been done that I haven't run across, so I would love to see it.
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    Test Case 1:

    Mob: Infesting Jormungar
    Zone: Storm Peaks
    Mob Type: Normal

    Base Stats:

    Melee Damage 421 - 587 Damage

    Demoralizing Roar - Base Value of -411 AP

    Melee Damage 362 - 528 Damage

    Variance in minimum hit - 14%
    Variance in maximum hit - 10%

    Demoralizing Roar - Talented Value of -575 AP

    Melee Damage 339 - 505 Damage

    Variance in minimum hit - 19.5%
    Variance in maximum hit - 14%

    Test Case 2:

    Mob: Azure Mage Slayer
    Location: Heroic Violet Hold
    Mob Type: Elite

    Base Stats:

    Melee Damage 569 - 792 Damage

    Demoralizing Roar - Base Value of -411 AP

    Melee Damage 489- 713 Damage

    Variance in minimum hit - 14%
    Variance in maximum hit - 10%

    Demoralizing Roar - Talented Value of -575 AP

    Melee Damage 458 - 681 Damage

    Variance in minimum hit - 19.6%
    Variance in maximum hit - 14%

    Trash showed a 14% variance in maximum hit and a 19.6% difference in minimum compared to the verified values above of 12.5% and 17.1%. Even as this seems to be the case in this test, your looking at a less then 2.5% difference between how -575 AP effects the Raid Boss compared to normal trash.

    Raid Boss:

    Maexxma Base Values are:

    19,547 - 26,828 Damage

    With Full Roar I can confirm the values of

    16,220 - 23,501 Damage

    This shows a minimum hit difference of 17.1%
    This also shows a maximum hit difference of 12.5%
    This is an averaged decrease in melee damage of 14.8%

    Base Damage: 19,547-26,828
    Base Shout: 17169-24450
    Shout 1 / 5: 16978-24259

    Simply by applying Shout at base rank you reduce the maximum hit of the Spider by 8.9% and the minimum hit by 12.2% or 10.55% averaged.

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