Icecrown Blood Queen Lanathel

[Banterloft]

I read that every dps needs 11, almost 12k dps during this fight to manage getting him down. This was without taking the people that get into vampire form into consideration. I still need to add that 12k dps? How do I get this, I play a boomkin and got maximum 8k dps single target (boss) in icecrown citadel. My character has over 5500 gearscore, equiped with the best boomkin talents I've managed to find for raiding, and best glyphs etc..

Here is your easy way to think about it. If your group downed Putricide then you can down the Queen. If you do a consistant 8K dps on raid bosses then if you are bitten first you will be doing somewhere around 15 to 16k for most of the fight. See how it works. It actually works out pretty well. The only time we had issues with DPS was our first attempt and we had our top two dps stand their ground and two melee's bite the tanks as soon as the button came up. The added dps boost for that couple of seconds downed her.

[Kurious]

Oh, Okey. So if we just make sure to get our top dps's bitten first we will down her?

[Banterloft]

We downed her with a diffrent group last night and we had to pull a diffrent strat. We have a VERY hard hitting ret pally however we had our hunter get it first and bite our mage. This did drop our initial dps however the ranged could put some mad damage down range while she was airborne. They collapsed, bit the retadin and the shaman and we popped hero at that point. It was easy-sause.

Quick note for ya. Have your tanks keep her up on the stage and have melee dps stand on the stairs. When shadows are on you (farting purple fire), have the melee run right or left and follow the wall. This makes their run alittle farther but it ensures that people meeting in the middle don't have to run thru the flames and if melee is looking to bite a melee runner then they know where they are going.

[Platetank-123]

Hey Tankspot.
In some of the videos there are a girl speaking and i find it harder du use the videos when she is speaking, so maybe u could send a video out where she is not speaking?

[skillez]

Hi, Lore could you please tell me the name of the addon your using for your rotation?

[skillez]

Could anyone please tell me the name of his rotation addon if you know the name?

[fluhlej]

Here are my calculations for DPS on this fight.

------ NOTE: if you want a quick calc you can take the raid DPS and multiply by ~1.46 to get the DPS with buff. OR you can take the raid DPS and multiply by ~352 to get the total damage after buffs) ---

I made an excel spread sheet which allows for modification easily. Note I am assuming a 4 minute fight, I assume the first bite occurs after 15 second and that the target will dps for 60 seconds and transfer the bite at 70seconds so there is 10seconds of down time (as a note the total damage is nearly the same even if this occurs as 50secs dps and xfer at 60).


Encounter time in minutes: 4
Bite Time in seconds: 70
buff time: 60
lost dps time per bite: -10

I assume 5 dps and that the tank+OT count as 1 dps (note that the tank will only have bite for ~10.8sec, and that I assumed they would both have bite even though I display them as one, in this case healers would not get bite)

I also made the calculation assuming all the dps is equal so the math is more transparent.

Char Avg DPS _buff time Fight % __DPS x ___DPS __Damage __lost time _Fighting time _Actual Damage
1 ____5500 ____ 3.75 ___94% ___ 1.94 ___10.6k _ 2.557mil __-30 ______3.50 ________2,237,813
2 ____5500 ____2.89 ___72% ____1.72 ___9.4k __ 2.274mil __-20 ______3.67 ________2,085,089
3 ____5500 ____2.04 ___51% ____1.51 ___8.3k __ 1.991mil __-10 ______3.83 ________1,908,795
4 ____5500 ____2.04 ___51% ____1.51 ___8.3k __ 1.991mil __-10 ______3.83 ________1,908,795
5 ____5500 ____1.18 ___29% ____1.29 ___7.1k __ 1.708mil __ 0 _______ 4 __________1,708,929
6 ____5500 ____1.18 ___29% ____1.29 ___7.1k __ 1.708mil __ 0 _______ 4 __________1,708,929
Raid _33000 ___________________1.54 ___50.9k _12.233mil __-11.7 ____3.81 _______11,638,884

I would like to note that the dps lost during the down time is minimal but it makes a difference so if your shy of a boss kill by ~200k consider your timing.


Some results from adjusted timing based on delayed bites.
Bite delay == 0 Total damage == 11.7mil
Bite delay == 6 Total damage == 11.7mil
Bite delay == 14 Total damage == 11.5mil

encase i got the total duration incorrect -- the following assume you can dps for 50seconds and must bite by 60 seconds
Bite delay == 0 Total damage == 10.9mil
Bite delay == 10 Total damage == 11.2mil

------ NOTE: if you want a quick calc you can take the raid DPS and multiply by ~1.46 to get the DPS with buff. OR you can take the raid DPS and multiply by ~352 to get the total damage after buffs) ---


GL out there...

[Daimon]

Idk if this math has holes but putting some time on it this is what I came out with, any mistake pls point it.
Facts/Assumption:
1- The fight has 5min enrage timer (330sec)
2- Every air phase last 6secs, there are 2 of those, so is a lost of 12secs of melee DPS)
3- Assuming everybody does sustained 9000 DPS
4- Vampires do 100% extra dmg, so that's double, lets assume they will effectively double their dmg/dps.
5- Queen bites at 15sec sharp.
6- Only the 1st vampire waits 5secs to bite the 1st time, then the rest bites are ASAP.
7- Raid setup of 2 tanks, 7 healers, 16 DPS.

1- (0 to 15sec) vamp#1 will do (9k x 15sec= 135k dmg) then (18k x 315sec = 5,670,000 dmg) total = 5,805,000
2- (75sec to 85sec) vamp#1 must bite vamp#2, lets say he waits 5secs, then: (80secs x 9k = 720,000 dmg as non vamp, and 250sec x 18k= 4,500,000 as vamp) for a total: 5,220,000
3- vamp3 and 4: 140sec x 9k + 190sec x 18k, total= 3,420,000 each, grand total of 9,360,000
4- vamps5, 6, 7 8: 200secs x 9k + 130secs x 18k = 4,140,000 each , grand total of 16,560,000
5- vamp 9 to 16: 260 secs x 9k + 70secs x 18k = 3,600,000 each, grand total of 28,800,000

the total dmg in that fight done is: 65,745,000, now remember the air phases? lets take that time of melee dps, assuming we have 50-50 range/melee
the 1st fear comes at 2min = 120secs, so only 1 vampire in melee will be affected (assuming we split bites as, melee to melee and range to range); and the 2nd air/fear phase is at 4min = 240sec, with 8 vampires, so 4 of them melee. We lose 1 vamp + 7 non vamp in the 1st and 4 vamps and 4 non vamps in the 2nd:
18k x 6sec + (9k x 6secs) x 7 = 486,000 dmg lost in the 1st
(18k x 6sec + 9k x 6sec) x 4 = 648,000 dmg lost in the 2nd, for a total of 1,134,000 lost dmg

Roughly doing 9k by every dps class in that fight we will do approximately 64,6mill, and that's more than the boss HP. Now what you should see in recount is:
vampires DPS
1 17.500~
2 15.600~
3 13.800~
4 13.800~
5 12000~
6 12000~
7 12000~
8 12000~
9 10.200~
10 from 9 to 16 is the same more or less

I didn't count:
1- Fear and reposition time (which is range dps loss)
2- Reaction time to bite, nor finding your player to bite either.
3- That math was done assuming the bites are split, so melee bites melee and range bites range.
4- Pact/Swarming Shadows DPS loss.

[Xiola]

Could anyone please tell me the name of his rotation addon if you know the name?

Perhaps better asked in his UI thread?
However, it's CLCret. http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...ls/clcret.aspx

[nightlbaze]

I saw that in the center of your screen, there was a button that was being clicked, it had the main abilities of a retribution paladin. Could you tell me what addon that is, along with the few boxes that have paragon and the other trinket and a few abilities.

[Shadowknigt]

Could anyone say which addon he uses to show achievements? he gets one in the end of the movie.¨
I chose to ask that question here instead of in the UI thread cause this is the only place i have seen that addon.

Thanks.

[Ðazed]

Lore i had a question i noticed u were Retibution in that 25 man encounter could i get a list of ur add ons if possible i like the one with the icons the best and think it would suit my play style

[Kazeyonoma]

Dazed, there is a UI forum here, in it is a UI Compilation subforum, IN THAT are threads to almost every video author's UI thread.

[Fireflight]

If people are having trouble finding their bite targets (this is more of a problem in 25 especially in the melee pack behind the boss), you can use the jewelcrafting focusing lens, with turns you in the direction of your target. You can focus your bite target ahead of time and when you need to bite, simply click your focus and use the focusing lens.

This helped tremendously when my guild was having trouble with bite targets.

[doomskull]

Disclaimer: I have not done the encounter yet.

That said, my understanding is that Lana'thel will bite one person during the encounter and will not bite again so long as the debuff is present on someone. She will bite another person if the debuff is not present in the raid.

if all players in a raid with the debuff die say the first person to be bit dies when bit due to bad timing bql will not bite any other players
and the attempt will end in a wipe when bql hits her enrage timer if not sooner