Nobody wanna correct (or confirm) my math?
First of all, I dont usually put too much math into my tanking kit, cause most of the time its pretty obvious what Ill want. However, when I got the peacekeeper blade from ToC HC earlier today I started wondering.
Equipping the peacekeeper blade unsocketed I lost .31% avoidance compared to the legacy of thunder.
What my question now would be if the following math is correct..
+20 defense rating is a yellow gem, which would give 4.065 defense.
4.065 defense would mean (*0.04) 0.1626 dodge, parry and block.
Now for the actual question. Does that mean my total avoidance would go up by 3*0.1626 = 0.4878% and leaving the peacekeeper blade at 0.1778% better avoidance?
The dealbreaker for me, if Im right, unfortunately is that Im a dwarf and im not overcapped on expertise, meaning my expertise go further down because I have +5 expertise to maces, but not to swords fro racials.
If It wherent for the expertise bit Id just socket the peacekeeper blade with +20 defense and test it rather than ask the question, but Ill save my epic gems for something more useful than confirming I wont use a weapon..
Last edited by Mctankor; 12-19-2009 at 03:45 AM.
Nobody wanna correct (or confirm) my math?
gem peacekeeper with stam and use it.
What gus is sayin' is don't worry about threat stats, focus on survivability and for that you gem stam.
Stam Czar says it is.
Instead of being a dick about it, how about just answering wether or not the math is right or just say you dont know if thats the case?
And your math is right, you yourself said peacekeeper blade is better avoidance, and if you gem it with stam you'll get about the same avoidance and more HPs as the other weapon, Expertise isn't THAT big of a deal, if it is just switch out some of your dodge gems for expertise.
I actually just fully looked at your armory and I'd suggest some major overhauling of your setup in both gemming and spec. Those changes should make up for any threat loss issues in switching away from a mace. Check out http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f97/6...ing-guide.html. It's not JUST what I think about stuff, there's also links to all kinds of other gearing guides and such that will help you on your way. A lot of what I say is fairly established and accepted practices too. The only thing I don't have is a good EH vs. Avoidance thread because most of them end up pretty bloody and or tangential and you've really got to dig through them to get at the information you want. Its generally accepted though that stam is what you stack for the most survivability.
Sorry if my answers sound dickish, I'm having to stay late at work which means I will have been here for 15+ hours and I am slipping into sleep depravation. I can get a little loopy around this time.
Which means the sockets already gone (1 yellow).
I will not overhaul my specc nor gems. Theire as they are for several reasons, mainly because after trying a few different things, it actually WORKS the way ive set it up now, believe it or not.
Sure, I have a few bosses left to down, but without a steady and well geared raid team (although people are slowly getting there) I cba.
Its generally accepted that stamina is what you stack for survivablility because people puging raids think that HP = skill and want people with 40k+ HP unbuffed for onyxia totally disregarding the fact that getting hit less decrease the workload for the healers a great deal.
Theoretically you can make sure that you are not even hit by the vast majority of the swings made at you and that the ones that DOES hit you never do full damage..
The fact that someone set up their character different than you and maybe in some ways different than "commonly accepted" dont mean theres no thought, experience or reason behind it. It was "commonly accepted" that the world was flat a while back, remember?
If I wanted advice on my specc or gems Id ask for it. I asked wether or not my math was right, not everything else..
I would also like to side with Aggathon and say that you should take a look at his guide. Just because something is working doesn't mean it can't get better. I'm pretty confident I could tank more or less all current content without pants, but that doesn't mean I run around in my undewear.
The only reason that you're conscious right now is because I don't want to carry you.
what about tanking without pants irl?
Yeah, thats what I needed to know, thanks.
Your math is wrong, by the way, Mctankor. Defense comes in discrete skill points. 20 defense is 4.065 defense skill. Unless you have at least .935 skill on top of your existing skill number, that .065 does nothing for you.
So in other words, 565.98 defense skill only gives you the benefits of 565 skill, while 566.01 skill will only give you the benefits of 566 skill. That means for your 20 defense gem, you either gain 4 skill:
4*0.12%= .48% avoidance
If it pushes you over on your existing skill to 5, you get:
I would listen to Agg though. The stamina is the best bet. You do what you want, but Aggathon knows what he's talking about in this situation.