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  1. #21
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    Figured that if you guys have the info, I may as well tap into it
    Our current raiding team is:-

    Malarr - Warr MT The World of Warcraft Armory
    Khellus - Warr OT The World of Warcraft Armory

    Timett - Shaman Healer The World of Warcraft Armory
    Kendrin - Druid Healer The World of Warcraft Armory
    Sanglant - Paladin Healer The World of Warcraft Armory

    And 5 dps from the following, depending who is available
    Vindal - Shadow Priest The World of Warcraft Armory
    Babooshka - MM Hunter The World of Warcraft Armory
    Qanik - FF Mage The World of Warcraft Armory
    Countstrahd - Demon Lock The World of Warcraft Armory
    Draklaj - Affliction Lock The World of Warcraft Armory
    Scarhound - Fury Warr The World of Warcraft Armory
    Zanzabar - Enhc Shaman The World of Warcraft Armory
    Vincentio - Blood DK The World of Warcraft Armory
    Baelor - Balance Druid The World of Warcraft Armory
    Any other level 80's in the guild are alts, and should probably just be discounted :P
    Last edited by LordAntilles; 10-05-2009 at 04:49 PM.
    If at first you don't succeed, shout at the dps.

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    Malarr's not too far off the mark.

    Upgrades in order of priority - I'm going to list conq gear as I'm not sure how many triumph badges are available.

    1. Platinum Mesh Cloak from Valor Badges

    2. T8 helm - it'll give him the 2 set bonus

    3. Indestructable Plate Girdle (crafted item) its a bit spendy so if you can't afford it, get a Shieldwarder Girdle with conq badges.

    4. Gauntlets of the Royal Watch (conq badges)

    5. Spiked Deathdealers crafted - least vital of the upgrades

    Enchants:
    Cloak - Defense
    Chest - Defense
    Wrists - 40 stamina
    Weapon - Blood draining

    All gems should be solid majestic zircons with the exception of his sword in which I'd put a guardian dreadstone.
    Spec should either be 15/3/53 or 5/15/51

    These changes will bump him up to (unbuffed):

    Health: 32743.08
    Armor: 23673
    Defense: 543
    Dodge: 22.02%
    Parry: 18.63%
    Block: 22.26%

    I'll hit the OT when I have a bit more time
    Last edited by Griff; 10-05-2009 at 05:07 PM.

  3. #23
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    Thankyou so much! Great info
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    Even though you are dispelling the fusion punch, having a large heal timed not even a split second after being hit with the fusion punch will make a huge difference in survival for the tank.

    as far as ignis, its important to shatter the adds ASAP once they reach 10 stacks of fire, the more adds that are out, the more damage the boss does to the MT.

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    Protip on Ignis, btw. You can shatter those things with a shield slam 90% of the time. So they die fast and you don't have to rely on the attentions of a distracted dps. I think it works pretty well for pallies too. Don't know about druids or DKs. It shouldn't be too gear dependent either, since I usually do it in my normal set, which only has like 1050 block value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordAntilles View Post
    They're both flasked with Flask of Stoneblood? (HP increasing one), Fish Feasted up, but am looking to get them investing in the Expertise & Stamina food, and no, they don't use indestructable pots. Would you recommend them?

    The 2 fights we've been struggling on are Ignis, and Assembly of Iron (Steelbreaker snotting MT straight after Fusion Punch, even tho its being insta-dispelled)
    We struggled on Assemly of Iron also, until we put a Pally tank on Steelbreaker and kept me, the DK, in the back with the Runemaster and Brundir (Mind Freeze and Strangulate on Brundir on his spins). The reason for this was our pally healer, who's quite good, was just not quick enough to dipsel Fusion Punch on me and our Pally tank could dispel himself.

    That said we've now gotten to the point where one of our priests can dispel quickly so we can have a DK tank Steelbreaker if we want/need.

    So, it's not a tank problem, it's a heal problem.

    I hate Ignis - I don't want to talk about it......

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    I love Ignis. It's one of the more interesting fights to offtank imo. It's also kind of fun to heal as Disc, although I've only healed the 10 man. Mass shielding the whole raid means no one takes damage on the Flame Jets.

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    Head Conqueror's Siegebreaker Greathelm - solid majestic zirc & austere earthsiege diamond
    Neck Titanium Earthguard Chain - solid majestic zirc
    Shoulders Shoulderguards of the Solemn Watch - work on that sons of hodir or get the pvp enchant
    Chest Conqueror's Siegebreaker Breastplate - defense
    Waist Shieldwarder Girdle - solid majestic zirc
    Legs Bolstered Legplates - 55 stam/22 agi
    Feet Plague-Impervious Boots - 22 stam
    Wrist Minion Bracers - +40 stam/solid majestic zirc
    Hands Gauntlets of the Royal Watch - Armsman
    Finger1 Signet of the Accord
    Finger2 Signet of the Impregnable Fortress
    Trinket1 Bubbling Brightbrew Charm
    Trinket2 The Black Heart
    Back Platinum Mesh Cloak - defense
    MainHand Peacekeeper Blade - hit/expertise or expertise/stam blood draining
    OffHand Titansteel Shield Wall - Defense
    Ranged Armor Plated Combat Shotgun - solid majestic zirc


    Health: 33157.05
    Defense: 542
    Dodge: 20.66%
    Parry: 18.48%
    Block: 20.39%
    Block Value: 1262
    Guaranteed Reduction: 64.32%
    Avoidance: 47.87% (+Block 68.26%)
    Total Mitigation: 82.09%

    Optional upgrades:
    If you've got the money, take a look at

    Indestructable plate girdle
    Spiked Deathdealers

    Or any of the ToC craftables such as saronite sword breakers but those are likely going to be very expensive.

    Also, if you've got the badges, take a look at the triumph gear as any of that stuff will be an upgrade. Take a look in particular at the Headplate of the Honorbound and the Clutch of Fortification.

    As for Khellus' spec:

    Drop 3/3 punture and 3/3 iron will, puncture is better spent elsewhere and iron will is not very useful in pve. Spend into 3/3 incite.

    Otherwise for his spec, he's going to want to reach up for improved demo shout for a mitigation build or deep wounds for a threat build. Should trade Glyph of Blocking for Glyph of Devastate
    Last edited by Griff; 10-06-2009 at 02:38 PM.

  9. #29
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    Griff, your a legend bud. Thanks so much for that breakdown, very easy to follow, and something concrete that i'll be able to show the guys.

    Much appreciated
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  10. #30
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    No problem, it was a bit quick so I might have missed something but it'll make life in Ulduar easier - good luck with the content.

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