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    Arms v Fury Gear Advice Needed.

    I have been going back and forth between Arms and Fury trying to see which would produced the best DPS.

    Here are WoWHead profile stats:
    FURY (Ironsoul/Edge of Ruin)
    Base
    1320 Strength
    - Increases attack power by 2620
    - Increases block value by 650
    265 Agility
    - Increases attack power by 0
    - Increases physical critical hit chance by 7.45%
    - Increases armor by 530
    1608 Stamina
    - Increases health by 15900
    45 Intellect
    - Increases mana by 0
    - Increases spell critical hit chance by 0.00%
    68 Spirit
    - Increases health regeneration by 36 per 5 seconds while not in combat
    - Increases mana regeneration by 7 per 5 seconds while not casting


    Melee
    3821 Power
    - Increases damage with melee weapons by 272.9 damage per second
    28.85% Critical
    - Crit rating 753 (+16.40% crit chance)
    - Increases melee critical strike chance by 28.85%
    8.94% Haste
    - Haste rating 293 (+8.94% haste)
    - Increases melee attack speed by 8.94%
    11.05% Hit
    - Hit rating 264 (+8.05% hit chance)
    - Increases melee chance to hit a level 80 target by 11.05%
    34.51% Penetration
    - Armor penetration rating 425 (+34.51% armor penetration)
    - Reduces enemy armor by 34.51%
    11 Expertise
    - Expertise rating 54 (+6 expertise)
    - Reduces chance to be dodged or parried by 2.75%


    ARMS (Edge of Ruin) Note: I was using a Marrowstrike but switched.
    Base
    1263 Strength
    - Increases attack power by 2506
    - Increases block value by 621
    265 Agility
    - Increases attack power by 0
    - Increases physical critical hit chance by 7.45%
    - Increases armor by 530
    1540 Stamina
    - Increases health by 15220
    45 Intellect
    - Increases mana by 0
    - Increases spell critical hit chance by 0.00%
    68 Spirit
    - Increases health regeneration by 36 per 5 seconds while not in combat
    - Increases mana regeneration by 7 per 5 seconds while not casting


    Melee
    3707 Power
    - Increases damage with melee weapons by 264.8 damage per second
    32.35% Critical
    - Crit rating 684 (+14.90% crit chance)
    - Increases melee critical strike chance by 32.35%
    18.94% Haste
    - Haste rating 293 (+8.94% haste)
    - Increases melee attack speed by 18.94%
    8.05% Hit
    - Hit rating 264 (+8.05% hit chance)
    - Increases melee chance to hit a level 80 target by 8.05%
    27.69% Penetration
    - Armor penetration rating 341 (+27.69% armor penetration)
    - Reduces enemy armor by 27.69%
    10 Expertise
    - Expertise rating 54 (+6 expertise)
    - Reduces chance to be dodged or parried by 2.50%


    Profiler - Wowhead

    Based on what equipment I have and how that has translated to stats, what items should I focus on getting and which spec should I use to maximize my DPS?

    Thanks for the help,
    Forgebreaker - Bleeding Hollow

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    It really depends what you tend to have in your raid. If you have a steady feral, enhancement shaman and/or arms warrior to go alongside you, fury will be better. Fury scales far better with raid buffs than arms does.

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    Personally I would stick to arms until you get better weapons to give fury more rage generation. I would also try to find a way to replace that huge amount of haste you have as arms with stats such as armor pen or strength.

    If you decide to play fury, you need to get to 25-26 expertise as your priority, and then focus on crit and strength.
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    your best bet would be to get landsoul's spreadsheet, put your gear in each tab for fury and arms and see which one will be better with your raid comp. if you have a feral cat in your raids near 100% of the time but no arms warriors and combat rogues, go arms. if you have an arms warrior but not a feral, go fury. sometimes its not whats the best dps for you, but whats the best dps for the raid.
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    Humburglar speaks truth. Fury is definitively better in an average 25-man setup than Arms is, just because Fury scales much better with buffs.

    Kind of a side note, but in my opinion, Arms is slightly harder to gear for than Fury is.

    Personally I go Arms in 10-man raids, and Fury in 25-man raids. If there is a Feral Druid in the 25-man group, then I find Arms does much better than it does without a Feral Druid (I assume because of the +dmg to bleeds). But even with the druid, Fury usually ends up being better DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helgi View Post
    If there is a Feral Druid in the 25-man group, then I find Arms does much better than it does without a Feral Druid (I assume because of the +dmg to bleeds).
    arms brings the bleed buff, which is why ferals love arms warriors since they dont have to mangle. that boosts their dps immensely when they can drop it from their rotation. the only thing a feral brings is 5% crit through leader of the pack, the same buff fury has but doesnt rely on a crit to active/refresh, its on everytime they are in form.

    the only reason ppl think arms is hard to gear for, is all the hit needed to cap. expertise is easy to come by, yet for fury this can be a hard cap to get unless you gem for it or are in higher content.
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