**Update:**
So i found the old values in one of my previous posts.

Here go a few things to note first off

1∙ The original Values & math comes from EJ, i updated them myself to show what they will be in 3.2

2∙ The Base value of a Night Elf with the appropriate buffs is 103 agi

3a∙ K = druid constant

3b∙ D = the old linear system. Value before DR. 40.288 is how much agi per dodge

3d∙ 40.288 is how much agi per dodge (before DR) we will get come next patch with all buffs/talents

4∙ Base dodge of a naked NE in bear form with the right talents is ~17%

Here goes most of the math for those that understand. Eddited to add in Kings, SoTF + imp MoTW (and the new 15% increase)

__Part 1.__
1/c = 0.0085555

K = 0.9720

D = Dodge from agi (gear + buffs - Base) / 40.288

Druid A: 2941.024 agi (gear + buffs - Base)

Druid B: 2981.312 agi (gear + buffs - Base)

Druid A / 40.288 = 73

Druid B / 40.288 = 74

1/z = 1/c + K/D

Druid A :

1/z = 0.0085555 + 0.9720/73

1/z = 0.02187

z = 45.72% dodge with DR

Druid B :

1/z = 0.0085555 + 0.9720/74

1/z = 0.0276143

z = 46.10% dodge with DR

at this point(73-74% dodge shown on your char sheet from just agi) we can see that 40.288 agi only gives (46.10 - 45.72) 0.38% dodge instead of the original 1% that it would give us if we didnt have any other agi

*just bear with me here youll see after the next part where this value fits in*
__Part 2. __
Ok here we have a druid. This particular druid has a choice of taking 123 agi or 123 defense rating (same item value apparently) 4.9185 defense rating = 1 defense skill at lvl 80

- 123 defense rating = 25 defense skill = 1% dodge + 1% miss (at zero DR) = 2% avoidance

now this druid has SoTF, kings and Imp MoTW.

- 123 agi x 1.06 x 1.02 x 1.1 = 146.29 agi = 3.63% dodge (at zero DR) = 3.63% avoidance

but now Druid A from part one has a choice of taking 123agi or 123 defense rating

- 123 defense rating = 25 defense skill = 0.38% dodge + 1% miss = 1.38% avoidance

- 123 agi x 1.06 x 1.02 x 1.1 = 146.29 agi = 1.38% dodge = 1.38% avoidance

with this we can see the point where Defense > agi provided you currently have no defense on your gear.

**In conclusion, unless you have over 91% dodge according to your character sheet (74% from agi + ~17% base) you dont need to worry about defense and since that's unobtainable you can totally forget about it until T12 or any such time you get close to 3k agi .**

∙ Little note from me, i was a little surprised it was actually this high, seems like its jumped about 25% since i last calculated it but then again that was right at the start of WoTLK without talents or buffs

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