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    Ciderhelm> beautiful choice of artwork. It has given the site a completely new edge, and I love it.

    My 2 cents...
    If only some of the other threads on these forums would generate as much interest and heated discussion as this one.
    But I will offer a few points to consider:
    1. Tankspot is the most informative tanking reference site on the interwebs. Period.
    2. The awesome creator and contributors/guildies of Tankspot have worked tirelessly to bring you the most up to date, accurate, and informative opinions, videos and advice, to help you improve the way you play your character in a game.
    3. They do this at absolutely no cost to you. They only ask that you consider donating to the site so that this fantastic resource can continue to do what it has done since it's conception... be the best damned tanking site there is.
    4. The administrators of this incredible website have decided to change the way their site looks by adding a picture to the background... and you have the nerve to question that decision?
    5. The new background artwork is actually less "provocative" than images on Blizzard's own official wallpapers... Example: WoW -> Downloads -> Wallpapers

    Bottom line though...
    To the people complaining that they can't view Tankspot at their workplace because it may be considered offensive by their colleagues and superiors... The question remains: "Why are you browsing a video game site at work to begin with?"

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    Why is it always orc warriors and half naked blood elf girls .. yes i understand they are the "hot" races, but what about a skinny undead with flesh and gizzards .... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by klor View Post
    As for Roanas argument of it turning you away.. I don't see you moving away from WoW because of the art work on there.
    That's because the artwork in the game is generally not as extreme and sexualized depictions not as pervasive. Plus, WoW has a number of strong female figures to counter negatives where they occur (Jaina Proudmoore, Tyrande Whisperwind, Magatha Grimtotem, Sylvanas Windrunner, etc.). WoW is not a game populated by bimbo NPCs.

    Also, it's not like there haven't been enough complaints over the armor that DOES look like it's meant to be worn by a stripper (such as the infamous Elemental Rockridge Leggings). Luckily, endgame armor generally doesn't have these problems and you can avoid most of the skimpy stuff while leveling.

    And as for the breast enhancement comment... sure, if you try to compare yourself to every female fantasy model drawn, it might make you feel like you need to match said drawing. However, most of us are adults and know that it is just a drawing. Very few people look like what is portrayed in drawings. That's why it's a fantasy. It's NOT real.
    That has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote. That the blood elf looks like a walking ad for breast enhancement surgery was simply me pointing out that the image IS very sexualized, despite people claiming it was not. My point was exactly that it IS a fantasy, namely an erotic one, depicting a woman whose erotic properties are emphasized over other attributes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leytur View Post
    No one is denying how well done it is. Just the underlying stereotypes it purveys. And honestly everything has been said that needs to be said so I won't beat a dead horse. HOWEVER. . .

    What if the belf was a dude? And he was showing his abs. .. and was wearing a chastity belt. . . exact armor as this lady. Would you view him simply as a mystic adept caster? lawl. I think not. We would probably call him what every mal. . . . oh wait I'm going into stereotypes myself there! Bad boy.
    This is wow, a game in which a tauren and a gnome can go to the same shoe store, for the same price, and buy the same pair of shoes, and they both fit perfectly.

    Point being a Belf female in this game can put on pants and they become a "chastity belt" where as the Belf male would put them on and they would be full out plate leggings. its just the way the game we all play and love is.




    Quote Originally Posted by Liar View Post
    Yeah, I kinda get what you are saying, I just don't view the orc and BE like that. I don't identify with either and just appreciate them for what they are: (sexed up) and really awesome drawn pictures of a Warrior tank and a Paladin healer, and that's where it ends for me. I don't need to be able to identify with something to appreciate it, it's just fluff to me. I don't have issues playing male or female characters in WoW either, they are just aesthetics - not some sort of avatar of myself.

    PS: Noone else noticed that the female is like 2 tiers (Warrior T7 vs what I think is Paladin T5) behind the tank and is most likely getting carried through heroics? <_<
    The orc is actually wearing T3, (T7 was a copy of T3 whereas T3 is blue, T7 is brownish, and T7.5 is grayish) So he would really be the one carried through any content, unless of course hes just showing off.

    Ah well. Just my two cents.

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    Love the marmot sitting on the orc's shoulder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookey View Post
    Artwork is great and good job on making it.

    However here are my 2c:

    TANKspot... no matter others are visiting... it's still TANK +spot... it was theoryspot when we all started to visit it and it changed to TANKspot

    Don't get me wrong or elitists or rasist... other classes should be welcome as guests :P Tanking is main topic here

    One side horde tank... other side aly tank... in the middle? TANKspot content... place we all gather around...

    Artwork minuses:
    Atm in the focus are 2 horde chars (should be 1 aly 1 horde)
    Night elf hunter eyes are either representing her drugged or dead while blood elf girl eyes are too "real" and less art... Orcs eyes are perfect example how painted eyes should look like.

    As for one Horde and one Alliance, trim her eyebrows, trim the ears down some , and change the libram to a shield and BAM!! Human Female Prot Pally =D

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    Roana has voiced most of my concerns. Thanks, Roana.

    As a male, I don't find the image offensive, but it does seem trite and uninspired, down to the pose. To me, the whole thing comes off as an attempt to get more traffic.

    Cider mentioned the image appealed to the sites demographic. Why is that important? Why can't you just use something that appeals to your sensibilities? I preferred the subtleties of BC-era tankspot :C.
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    Zangarmarsh > this.

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    Tankspot getting close to jumping the shark..

    I have to agree with the other posters, and specifically with;

    That the blood elf looks like a walking ad for breast enhancement surgery was simply me pointing out that the image IS very sexualized, despite people claiming it was not.
    Personally, I find it a bit tacky and juvenile. From someone like Ciderhelm, who seems quite articulate and intelligent, I'm disappointed.

    That said, it's your site, and you're entitled to decorate it as you see fit.

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    It's really Cider's decision at the end of the day. His site, his rules, his preferences.

    And saying something is juvenile when we all play a fantasy computer game for large amounts of our weeks is rather...amusing. Because come one, we're (mostly) adults here. And we play computer games. A bit of boob isn't going to lower the tone any. I really just think everyone is taking themselves a little too seriously in this regard*.

    But hey, that's just my opinion on the matter. But no matter what happens there will be someone unhappy with it, someone who'll complain...so just do what you want to Cider.

    *And as a side note, I'd probably clip the images to put their chests in a more prominant position. Just to mess with you all and have a laugh. Though I'd then change some settings and let people choose to either see or not see the background.

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    Great artwork. Don't see where the controversy is really, and I looked up Azazel on Deviantart as well, and didn't see anything controvertial there either, so that last comment seems kind of wannabeish to me- "We have new artwork, it's going to be controvertial, look at us".

    But I agree about Orc and elves being overused. Would've been nice to see one of the rarely used races in artwork, like trolls or ud even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie View Post
    Great artwork. Don't see where the controversy is really, and I looked up Azazel on Deviantart as well, and didn't see anything controvertial there either, so that last comment seems kind of wannabeish to me- "We have new artwork, it's going to be controvertial, look at us".

    But I agree about Orc and elves being overused. Would've been nice to see one of the rarely used races in artwork, like trolls or ud even.
    ... Did you get the right Azazel? Around 50% of his gallery is "click to view" with no thumbnail because it contains partial nudity and exposed female genitalia.

    he's an amazing artist, it's just a shame he caters to such a specific audience.

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    the dranei paladin one comes to mind. my husband has a deviant art.. I am tempted to log into his to see the ones that need an account log in.


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    We are playing a game in which we kill fictional characters that can be a "human". Sometimes we kill these characters in not-too-savory ways, either. Granted, this game is far from graphic. However, I feel that if you are offended by this artwork because of some well drawn breasts, then how how is it that you are not offended by the violence in WoW.

    I always amazes me when people are fine showing their kids and themselves some of the most violent images out there in movies and other games, but you show a little skin and they freak out. Shouldn't nudity be more acceptable than violence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turelliax View Post
    the dranei paladin one comes to mind. my husband has a deviant art.. I am tempted to log into his to see the ones that need an account log in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kushwow View Post
    I have to agree with the other posters, and specifically with;



    Personally, I find it a bit tacky and juvenile. From someone like Ciderhelm, who seems quite articulate and intelligent, I'm disappointed.

    That said, it's your site, and you're entitled to decorate it as you see fit.
    have you SEEN world of warcraft? 70% of the female armor is scantly clad.. not to mention the splash screen's blizzards artists have made..

    this artists work is amazing.. and it is just that.. its art, get over yourself(s) if you take a picture to be "sexist".

    bottom line, if cider never said anything about "the new picture may be a bit much for some" no one ever would have said anything about it...

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    Looks good Cider, nice job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squats View Post
    have you SEEN world of warcraft?
    Have you seen the other serious Wow sites? EJ, Wowhead, Wowwiki, Maintankadin, mmochampion, world of raids, Thottbott, the official wow site, and pretty much every other site in the official fan site program doesn't put this type of cheesecake art up as a background on all their pages.

    And to the people hateing on the people that view this site at work. There is such a thing as breaks, and downtime in most every job. Checking up on some wow news isnt the same as browsing porn, but at a quick glance some one could misinterpret the site and its purpose.

    As far as the people using add blocks and the such to disable the background, that will do nothing but hurt the bottom line of tankspot because you will not have ad views.

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    The cover image does put this site into a different category visually than most other knowledge oriented wow sites.

    Its like walking into a Coffee shop and seeing a Babe Centric Power tool calender prominently displayed on the wall

    Nothing wrong but a bit "jarring"

    The artist, as Cider pointed out, is known for highly erotic fantasy art and I'm sure the composition and content were discussed before he started the project.

    I have blocked the images at work and have the grinch and sallly the hot BELF Babe staring at me on my personal laptop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alent View Post
    ... Did you get the right Azazel? Around 50% of his gallery is "click to view" with no thumbnail because it contains partial nudity and exposed female genitalia.

    he's an amazing artist, it's just a shame he caters to such a specific audience.
    I probably got the wrong one then. There was no credit link on the announcement, so I had to look it up on Deviant myself. It's really well made artwork, so I wouldn't mind see more of what he's done.

    But really, it's an orc and a blood elf, both races present on WoW. If people think that's controvertial, I think they have serious issues and are out of touch with reality. Not safe for work, most likely due to the armor the paladin is wearing? Heh, please. Have a look at the world outside, everything from TV to print features something much worse, and society generally deems it quite acceptable enough to talk about at work. If someone at my work looked at me weird or had the wrong idea after looking at this, then I'd tell them to get their head out of the gutter and go get laid more.

    Partial nudity has always been a part of entertainment, especially MMO games. Heck, just look at some of the armor in WoW currently, like Robes of Insight. Blizzard's own official artwork on the loading screens isn't too different from this, the boobs on all female characters even jiggle as they run in-game, and female models of armor are sometimes significantly more revealing than their male counterparts- yet WoW is a 12+ game. If 12 year olds can handle things like that, then I don't see why people older have such big issues.

    This piece is incredibly well made IMO, and the marmot idea on it is pretty cool. Just the usage of orcs/blood elves is quite old now.

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