One thing that will help your healers considerably on tantrums is to setup a cooldown rotation. Raid Sac, Hymn, and some other stuff I can't remember exactly. Our healing team had a whole list of people and which tantrum in sequence they would blow a cooldown on. Just put the order in a macro so it is easy to inform everyone what the order is, and make sure each person knows when they are next.
For positioning, make sure there is seperation between the melee and ranged groups. Also you can have the melee all together tight just behind his right or left foot. Then when they run on light spark, they run to behind the other foot, are still in melee range to dps, but are out of light spark damage range. This was really helpful prenerf with meeting the enrage, but isn't strictly essential now.
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this addon out. Calculates the time it takes for a mob to die on the fly, very useful for keeping track of whether the raid is going to make the enrage timer or not.
Well, we tried spreading out the ranged and it didnt seem to go as well as expected. We had a lot more raid DPS stacking up the ranged and melee.
Another questions I have tho is how many ranged DPS did you have killing sparks? We had roughly 10 ranged DPS in the raid and I'm wondering if they should all be on the life spark or if you assign certain people to it and let the rest continue DPS on XT. We only ran with 5 healers and 2 tanks, and we were barley killing the heart intime. You stated that you can have 6-7 healers and 2 tanks and have no problem killing the heart.
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Offtank? Don't you just kite them?
We've used 1 tank and 5 healers for this fight, since we set up our strat and got the kill prenerf when dps was very tight. I taunt to pick up every spark, but don't do any actual threat to it, ranged explodes it, and it's always dead before it hits the ranged clump. No kiting, no offtank, no tank damage. We do have every ranged in raid with the exception of shadow priests burn sparks on spawning. When they were spawning faster, it was nearly fulltime, but it kept the sparks from ever chaining thier shock through melee, which we deemed worthwhile. It's not a concern now, obviously.
This is really one of the easier hardmodes now, there's probably a lot of ways to make it work and succeed at the dps check. With 1 tank, 5 healers, and not having modified the strat to make use of melee splash damage, we still manage 7.5-8 minute kills now.
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Thanks for posting, word of advice, make sure your range are running towards you when they have light bomb, as they will be out of range of taunt...
Thanks again Tankspot
Just want to let you know guys, my guild was a little sceptic about using this strategy so we asked. This is what we got.
Conclusion: We don't use this strategy.
We (my guild and I) have tried this last night. Wiped a lot on it and didn't get it. We finally gave up and did the deconstruct faster and nerf engineering in the end.
I was tanking the boss, we had one warr tank with vigilance on me for adds/sparks, 7 healers and rest dps. I have a few questions regarding the encounter.
1st : what are the exact effects of the sparks? I see in the movie that you kill them in the middle of the raid. Isn't there an AoE damage when they die or something? Cause we had a team of 4 ppl, tank+3dps ttrying to kill them outside the raid. Best try was to get the boss to 20%, at which point we hit the enrage timer and wiped. Felt like those 3 dps would have been better on boss then waste them on sparks.
2nd : about the healing. What kind of cooldowns do you use for less raid damage during tantrum? Cause we lost a lot of ppl during tantrum phases. I was using Divine protection every 2 tantrums and Heart of Iron during normal phases to try and keep it as easy as possible on the healers, since the raid damage was so much.
3rd : about the dps. How did you do on the heart? Did you have any seconds left? Cause last weeks we were not even near killing the heart and last night sometimes the heart would die just as it was going back in the "chest" of the robot. To me it seemed like we lacked the dps to really make it. Was nice exercise otherwise. Ppl learned how and where to go with the bombs.
Also, considering that Blizzard created the mechanics of the fight to NOT spawn adds from those piles but to spawn double adds from the opposite piles instead, I'd wager to say they completely and fully intended it to work this way and also intended this to be a fully legit strategy.
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[quote=Darxide;251814Also, considering that Blizzard created the mechanics of the fight to NOT spawn adds from those piles but to spawn double adds from the opposite piles instead, I'd wager to say they completely and fully intended it to work this way and also intended this to be a fully legit strategy.[/quote]
I agree with the coding having to be deliberate in terms of not coming out of the nearby piles but I haven't noticed anyone saying anything about double coming from the far piles. Obviously when I'm tanking him the adds are pretty far from my concern so maybe I'm just missing it.
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My point, Heart DPS means nothing. As long as it dies consistantly then you are ready for this hard mode.
For one, it is very possible that a melee was not auto attacking it. It is very possible to be able to use specials but not be white swinging.\
For two, 5 seconds is a a lot. Even my guild does it (in 25) with only 1-2 seconds left and were on algalon.
Downed this in 10man tonight on the second attempt and got myself Aesir's Edge. Thanks a whole lot to Cider and Lore for taking the time to do these videos, they're a huge help to my guild. Keep up the good work!
The last two weeks my guild has had to move back to tanking Xt by the stairs because we end up getting a lot more adds than before when we moved him to the side inbetween two piles does anyone know if this was intended by blizz or a bug. Sayin this i think that Hard Mode actually becomes easier because after you kill the heart in the first heart phase no more adds come and you just deal light and gravity bombs can anyone offer another insight on this.