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    Quote Originally Posted by Decodelbanjo View Post
    Hi i was just wondering who would be good to throw up onto the boss, would you be able to throw up hybrids or is it better to have 2 ranged dps and a healer set up? Is there any point in throwing up melee or is that just way outta the question?

    Sorry and finally I heard that the hard mode loot drops off of 3 towers and 4 towers, cos if so i can really only see my guild doing orbituary for the meta achievement "heroic: glory of the ulduar raider"
    only 4, yogg with 1 watcher helping vs 0 helping is the only tiered hard mode that drops loot at less than max difficulty.

    As to your other question, locks and spriests are by far the most effective.

    NEVER send hunters, they are deadzoned and can not attack the turret they actually land on.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Contrite View Post
    In your video, you reference that you use mages because they can cancel their parachute and blink away. Is there a reason that you dont have your Overload team just exit vehicle immediately after Overload has started but before they are launched in the air?
    No reason, I just failed to mention this. This is exactly what our Shamans do.

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    I revived an old FL Thread in the Strategy Forum after seeing this video to discuss more specific points of strategy not specifically covered in the video. Unfortunately I wasn't sure should if it should be posted here or not. So anyone with insight that's willing to enlighten please contribute:
    http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f214/...tml#post236731

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    Thanks for the video Ciderhelm. Next week, my guild will probably start trying 2 towers in 10man, and i'm going to switch us to this strategy.

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    [blizzard]The Flame Leviathan encounter has received the following changes: the bonus health Flame Leviathan receives per tower has been reduced, the ejection height from Flame Leviathan has been reduced, the snare effect of the Tower of Frost has been removed, and the cannons on Demolishers and Siege Enginers should now break Flash Frozen vehicles in 1 shot.[/blizzard]
    Just did this 4 tower on 10 man. Did it in 3 stuns with the 10 stacks constantly dropping due to being chased. now has 88 million on 10 man.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksend View Post
    Just did this 4 tower on 10 man. Did it in 3 stuns with the 10 stacks constantly dropping due to being chased. now has 88 million on 10 man.
    What vehicle setup are you using for 10 man? Or is your point that this has been nerfed into easymode and that it doesn't really matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swelt View Post
    What vehicle setup are you using for 10 man? Or is your point that this has been nerfed into easymode and that it doesn't really matter?
    Not really much you can do in 10 man to change the setup

    Honestly though his HP is not even the biggest change. The most significant one is the movement speed. It was immediately noticeable even before the first stun. You can pretty much back peddle with sprint up as a demo and he will not catch you.



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    wtb Filefront links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addohm View Post
    wtb Filefront links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swelt View Post
    What vehicle setup are you using for 10 man? Or is your point that this has been nerfed into easymode and that it doesn't really matter?
    There's not too many ways to vary it up in 10-man, but what we did was:

    2 Siege (2 ppl in each)
    2 Demos (3 ppl in one, 2 in the other)
    1 Chopper (1 person)

    The key for us was having one person get into launch position before pull, then another person (who would normally have been in the 2nd chopper) get into the passenger position. We did this so that the two people being launched would always have someone in their vehicle getting pyrite to keep the 10 stacks up. And to be honest, choppers are (imo) the least useful vehicles anyways, so having only one to pick up the turret people and lay tar was enough.

    Basically:
    Seige Engines - Interrupts + Killing adds (Pilot); Shooting down Pyrite + Killing Adds (Passenger) - and light dmg on FL during the stun.

    Demo - Keeping 10 stacks of pyrite rolling at all times (Pilot); Picking up pyrite and one of the demos will be shooting up passengers (Passenger)

    Chopper - Picking up passengers from the demo after a shutdown, laying tar on top of FL during the stun for more dmg. And just trying to stay alive as long as possible.

    Like others have said, it should take no more than 3 stuns to get him down. Hope that helps.

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    damn that's like a 20% hp nerf hah.

    usually we use
    5 demo (3 are full time on boss, 2 are launch teams consisting of a driver and 2 lock/sp teams)
    5 sieges (we assign 1 siege to each "corner area", and the turret kills the freya adds there, they are also responsible for levi interrupts if he's in their quarter of the room, 1 fulltime siege on levi for interrupts as well)
    3 choppers (2 are assigned to pick up the launch teams and return them to the marked demo's, one is just useless and runs around being trash)

    demo's try to maintain 10 stacks for the whole fight. if you manage to maintain a 10stack from start to finish, you'll do about 230k-240k dps as a demolisher. with 5 demo's doing between 180k-240k, levi will usually die around the 4th stun, sometimes after the 3rd if demo's have a solid run.

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    With the nerfs to FL is it possible to do 4 towers shutout?

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    No. But you can do 2 towers without shutting him down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizana View Post
    No. But you can do 2 towers without shutting him down
    Well we were doing that before the nerfs anyway. Which is why with the HP nerf to FL i wonder if it's possible to do 4 tower shutout.

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    The problem with Shutout is that you aren't resetting his stacking speed buff, which makes kiting him w/ all the towers active extraordinarily difficult. It's probably possible to do Shutout if everything is executed flawlessly, but it'd be equivalent to finding a way to kill Thorim with a Warrior tank not wearing a shield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhelm View Post
    ...but it'd be equivalent to finding a way to kill Thorim with a Warrior tank not wearing a shield.
    Please do NOT give them ideas for achievements to spring on us in Icecrown.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksend View Post
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    Don't you provide these movies for free?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Addohm View Post

    Fix that FOS statement.
    You might want to reconsider your definition of the word 'or'.
    In all seriousness, all vids are, in fact, provided via youtube OR wcm OR filefront. So, the FOS statement is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Addohm View Post

    Fix that FOS statement.
    Or, not And.

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    Have you ever tried to find a "tankspot" video, or a video with related references or similar titles, on any of the 3 afformentioned sites? lol.

    Youtube HD is not much better then Youtube vanilla.

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