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    To clarify and inform.

    So earlier today, we talked about Bear Rotation - Darksend called it a priority list, but i find calling it that cofusing and harder to follow.

    So just to get it on - paper - somewhere:

    Lé spec:
    Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

    Link to Lacerate:
    Lacerate - Spell - World of Warcraft

    For the lazy ones: NO imp. mangle several bloggers have done the math. Of Teeth and Claws: Should Improved Mangle be in a tanking spec?

    And since 3.1 got a nice boost to FFF that'd be a part of our lovely "rotation"
    FFF have a 6 second Rotation and Mangle the same.

    X is representing first 5 Lacerates, There next some swipes(4).

    So here goes:

    FFF - Mangle - X - X - FFF
    0 - 1.5 - 3.0 - 4.5 - 6.0

    Or:

    FFF - Mangle - Lacerate - Lacerate - FFF
    Mangle - Lacerate (15 second duration start, so Lacerate have to be refreshed after 8-9 global cooldowns.) - Swipe - FFF
    Mangle - Swipe - Swipe - FFF
    Mangle -Swipe - Lacerate (Ideal) - FFF

    This should be the out most benificial rotation. Maul is of cause pressed at all times. Don't know if anyone can use it, but i wouldn't call it a priority list.
    Last edited by Ushebti; 05-05-2009 at 01:35 PM. Reason: Found a blog (:

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    1) without imp mangle your rotation is easier, you can literally macro it

    /castsequence mangle, FF, lacerate, lacerate

    or
    /castsequence mangle, FF

    and manually hit either lacerate or swipe depending on the duration of the dot.

    but it is less threat than an imp mangle rotation under:

    2) YES IMP MANGLE IS BAD and less threat than MSS. But what about if you have BOTH MSS and Imangle. This is why i call it a priority system

    Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft is the closest you can get. But I refuse to give up imp LOTP. My spec gives up IW to contain imp mangle and MSS. I have a Frost dk and a prot warrior in my raid so one of the 2 will always be up, i do not need IW.

    Using my spec it is:
    is mangle off CD -> mangle
    does the lacerate dot have less than 3 seconds -> lacerate
    is FFF off cooldown -> FFF
    is there CC I do not want to break -> lacerate
    is lacerate at a 5 stack with more than 3 seconds left -> if yes Swipe, if no lacerate

    Furthermore, lacerate crits proc SD so skiping primal gore is a terrible idea.


    3) FF: wrote this one up a long time ago and more recently felhoof did his math on it

    http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f14/4...-rotation.html
    ThinkTank: [Druid]The net threat value of faerie fire


    btw: your spec does not have imp motw I will assume that is an oversight and you just wanted to get the resto tree done as fast as possible.

    If not, imp MOTW is 2% stats > 2 points in furor even though the inconvience of having to shift 10 times pre-boss pull is noticble.



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    Corrected Talents.

    just some thought:
    Rotation with Imp. Mangle.

    Mangle - FFF - X - Mangle - FFF - X.

    Here it exceeds my Math skills, or time I don't know, will the slower build up of Lacerate be worse Mitigationwise and Threatwise?.

    Btw, this is just single target stuff, so don't worry to much about CC.
    Last edited by Ushebti; 05-05-2009 at 01:35 PM.

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    no, you skipped Imp MOTW, I am saying in Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft this spec with MSS IW AND Imangle, you would be forced to skip it which is why it is a bad idea to try and get all 3 of those at once



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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksend View Post
    Furthermore, lacerate crits proc SD so skiping primal gore is a terrible idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksend View Post
    no, you skipped Imp MOTW, I am saying in Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft this spec with MSS IW AND Imangle, you would be forced to skip it which is why it is a bad idea to try and get all 3 of those at once
    Pick one out Charge, I haven't used it so much in Ulduar.

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