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  1. #1
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    Mar 2009

    DKs with 538 Def?

    So. i left this guild cause the leader thought he could tank but wasn't even geared enough.. but anyways back to my question

    should a DK with 538 Def be alloud to MT naxx when he has the relic that gives him like 3 def if it procs?

    IMO i say no.. cause that proc is a buff. and the 540 def is the minimum unbuffed.. am i thinking right... or did alof a sudden self buffs not count as buffs

  2. #2
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    Nov 2008
    for the MT spot, it would depends on the rest of the gear/stats.

    but as far as the defense question. i believe that the relic has a 100% proc chance and given DK rotations should have 100% uptime.

  3. #3
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    Mar 2009
    The sigil in question:

    Sigil of the Unfaltering Knight - Item - World of Warcraft

    Has a 100% chance to proc on Icy Touch, gives 53 def rating (which is closer to 11 def skill, not 3) and should be up 100% of the time given that it lasts 30 seconds and Icy Touch only costs 1 frost rune. Even discounting death runes, you would get 3 chances to refresh the buff before it dropped, presuming that you spammed a frost ability every time it was available.

    I would consider this to be in the same league as a Paladin's Holy Shield. For all intents and purposes, when calculating overall avoidance + block for a paladin, you add 30% because Holy Shield has a shorter cooldown that the duration of the buff it provides. If your tank isn't vigilant about refreshing it, they're going to get into trouble, but there is no reason they shouldn't have it up 100% of the time (save for situations where the charges are consumed in less than 8 seconds, but those are few and far between, and in any case there is no similar consumption of the DK sigil's buff)

    FYI, the buff it provides is:

    Unflinching Valor - Spell - World of Warcraft
    Last edited by Karatheya; 03-23-2009 at 04:05 PM.

  4. #4
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    Dec 2008
    Not being to familiar with DK's rotations you could always take a WWS from a Naxx run and calculate the uptime for the buff. But if he has 538 def... 2 more should be easy.

  5. #5
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    Jan 2008
    The sigil grants a buff that more than covers the minor, minor gap in defense from his gear, with a 100% procrate. For all intents and purposes, he's crit immune with the sigil, assuming he refreshes the buff. It was introduced a few patches back with the intent of giving deathknights another means of reaching that crit immunity, due to the lack of any tanking 2handers to speak of.

    If his defense is that low, he's probably using a swordshattering runeforge, which is a very viable alternative to ssg.

    Whether he's geared enough to MT Naxx..... can't really say without an armory profile to look over. But from what you've said, it's quite possible that he's geared just fine to tank the zone.

  6. #6
    I'm going to say if he has the HP pool and the general gear then yes he is ready. He is Def. capped during all fights. Unless he is bad, I used that sigil and had about the same Def at some point too because it allowed me to get a little more stam which I badly needed when less geared.

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