They will never understand that you could make frost mages replenish 2% mana per frostbolt, and people still wouldn't take them to raids since they are so far behind frostfire and arcane. But no, frost should lag in DPS since it has better survivability. That 3000 point ice barrier is sure gonna slow down the 20k clothie hit from a trash mob, AMIRITE? (yeah, yeah PvP. PvP can get stuffed.)Improved Water Elemental – this talent has been removed because people were still trying to get frost mages into raids
The other complaint is that frost is boring to play, and I suppose I can see that. After tanking with a warrior, though, pressing two buttons to melt faces is pretty darn appealing to me as a break!


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