I just finally got the Red Sword of Courage after running UP 13 times. Now I am not sure which enchant to put on it. I had the sword from uk for a long time and had Titanium Weapon chain on it, but now that I have a purple sword I don't know which enchant to put on it.
Mongoose seems to be pretty popular. I have also used Executioner as a good threat addition.The only other thing I have seen ppl using recently is accuracy at which point they have very nice gear and are using the hit rating mostly from this enchant. Mats however are extremely expensive;a Cheaper alternative would be Titanium weapon chain. My warrior is using mongoose for stuff like Naxx. I would probably consider the weapon chain if I require the hit.
Weapon chain or Accuracy depending on what you need
Personally I enchanted the Red Sword with a weapon chain, but my guild runs 25 mans and I knew it was only a matter of time and effort before something better still dropped. Last Laugh then got the Accuracy enchant.
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Accuracy is way too expensive, it's not worth it. It's like 0.56% more crit, but since you have >25% crit for HS already the upgrade is minimal for that cost.
Get Mongoose for the cool effects or Weapon chain.
Price really shouldn't determine the choice, guilds pay for enchants more often than not, especially ones that require abyss crystals.
With my red sword I used a Weapon Chain, but I recently got Broken Promise so I tossed an accuracy on that.
Slayer of the Lifeless and anything lower in item level, use a weapon chain, anything above (Last Laugh, Broken Promise) should get quality treatments.
My red sword sported a weapon chain.. My broken promise is using a weapon chain.. I'll spring for Accuary on last laugh since it's gonna be a long time till i get an upgrade, but we are clearing 25 naxx every week and i'm next on the list for LL.
whatever makes you happy atm. considering theyre all mediocre in regards to tanking it doesnt really matter either way.
I've seen ALOT of Mongoose enchanted swords floating around lvl 80 tanks on my server which has me confused.Originally Posted by bigstuffdee
I thought I had read that at lvl 80 the Mongoose proc rate was drastically reduced and as a result something like Exceptional Agility actually balanced out as a better option if you're shooting for an agility enchant.
Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
this is the truth buddy, just get a wep chain and be done with it.
I had mongoose on my red sword cause it droped like the first week wotlk was out for me and mongoose was not nerfed at 80 yet. as time passed it was procing less and less and when last laugh droped the patch was suppose to bring the stam enchant to I waited the extra weeks expecting the stam chant when they announced it wasn't going into the the game i went with accuracy.
for someone to say that just a small percentage makes someting not worth it would be the same people that don't do xxx cause its only a small change and you add up all those "small" changes and suddenly they are a "big" change.
i do agree with saving the big enchants for the "final" type items though. just don't use it as an excuse to not do anything.
sorry guess i went a tich off topic there and i say accuracy is the way to go at this point in time.
LOL...don't we all wish the guild would pay for our chants and gems. The reason I don't ride an epic mount is because I put all my money into making my armor epic.
Weapon chain is my favorite. It provides more hit rating then accuracy, and the crit rating from accuracy is rather useless. Don't waste your money on an inferior enchant.
Accuracy is not inferior to the weapon chain. Anyone caring about 3 hit over 25 crit is stuck in TBC thinking.
In tbc landing our moves was what matter threat wise... now our moves *also* have to do damage to generate good threat.
You could argue that the crit is unnecessary, but you can't rationally argue that it's inferior.
Spring for accuracy. I have my Red Sword with Accuracy because it is the best I can get. Both of these enchants have 2 effective bonuses. You only use 1/2 of your weapon chain's "potential" because what boss disarms in the current 25/10man raids. So you are pretty much just using half the enchant, where you could get effective use out of both stat boosts to Accuracy.
Accuracy on the Read Sword wasn't really a debate for me, I had to have it!
i'm not sure if i would drop accuracy on red sword unless you don't run 25s.
In my opinion, you only need accuracy if a) your dps consistently out threats you or b) your guild's dps needs a little extra boost to be where you want it to be. Otherwise, you may as well get a mitigation enchant (agility, mongoose) to make life easier on your healers and thus the raid.
I ran H VH the other day with a pretty much fully 25-man geared enhancement shaman, while I am almost entirely 10-man geared (still have blue trinkets and bracers). He went all out on the final boss and pulled 3.8K dps, and as a paladin I managed to stay above him in threat, only using salvation during the threat drop she does. I have mongoose on my sword, and no spectacular hit rating/expertise/strength modifiers.
Just to give an example that even with a really powerful dps, staying on top in the threat list isn't the hardest thing in the world. I imagine a full 25-man raid with amazing dps is a little different, but regardless, I think the most significant threat boost you will find will be in perfecting your rotations, rather than gemming an extra 12 hit here or there.
Accuracy all the way. When you start hitting things like Malygos, and your DPS is stacking 2-3 sparkfields, those extra crits really do matter. It gets pretty difficult in phase 1 when your dps is typically pulling 4500+ DPS before they are in spark fields, and it only gets more stressful afterward.
gold for the enchant shouldn't be an issue. if your guild is regularly running nax10 and nax25, if you haven't started DEing epics yet, then you will be soon. Even if your guild can't/doesn't supply them, gold is easy as hell to come by. I made about 600g this week FROM raiding. dailies and farming are always an option. there isn't a gathering profession right now that isn;t making money ;p
What tank really gets out threated...? Honestly not a valid point for this topic. If you are being out threated Accuracy wouldn't make a difference; it would be your tanking style~In my opinion, you only need accuracy if a) your dps consistently out threats you
Gold shouldnt be an issue what you are going for. If you choose something you dont need over something you need the most because it cost to much you rly should rethink your choise of gamestyle.
Raiding, regardless of class and specc is about Maximizing your performance. If you choose lesser enchants couse you want to save up some gold you will drag the rest of your raid down with you. Always strive to do your best. Sure if you for some reason doesnt have the required money for the enchant take the less one but strive to get the new enchant as soon as possible.
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