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    I did this fight (25-man) using no bar mods other than CT.

    I had 44 hit rating, owing that I collect more crit/Spirit Spellpower gear for my build, and much of it does have a bit of hit. I MC'd each mob in turn, though the tank actually managed to kill the fourth by accident after I'd Widow Embraced the third.

    I never ran into any of the problems being listed by Priests, the abilities were always available, and the mobs were never immune (and they were in Consecrations). I don't think our main tank took a single Frenzied hit.

    What might be causing Priest MC to break early is the Poison Bolt Volley. The priest taking damage, from what I can tell, can easily cause it to break. I've countered this by making certain that one healer watches me and cleanses the poison ASAP. I MC about five seconds before Enrage cools down, and I hit Widow's Embrace the moment she enrages. Never failed.

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    Hey Everyone,

    Yesterday we killed Grand Widow Faerlina just tanking the enrage. (25 man)
    Got to note that with 2 priest and 1 shaman heal my damage migration goes up to 87%. (armour cap 75% + 12% talents)

    Thatís 3 tank healers and 3 off-tank/raid healers.

    So if ever you donít have a spear priest to CM the adds you can always use a over-gear druid tank with 3 heals and just nuke(AOE) down the adds.

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    Hey guys i was just wondering if a Death knight could tank naxxramus easily?

    Mine has 25k unbuffed and 554 defense...I am suppoed to b doing it this weekend and kinda need to know

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    Priest being endangered Species

    Well with Priest being endangered species on my Server. We have 1 priest in our whole guild. Can it be done with 1 priest? Any try the Gnomish Mind Control Cap?

    And Yes and DK can tank Naxx. You will need more HP before you try the construct wing though.

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    How does the switch between the MT and OT work? Just a taunt or the appropriate ability of a Pala or Druid tank? And that happens always when the tank's health is going low?

    I am just preparing myself to start raiding. Difficult on our server as it seems they are only inviting tanks who are knowing all fights in Naxx / Sanctum...Beginners not wanted
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    easy fight, especially on 25 man we just burn the adds and heals keep tank up . MC is only important on 25 man if your tanks are not well geared. Infact our MT is a dk and he is insanely good

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    On 10man, we have a pally OT grab the adds and put down consecrate to hold aggro and do some damage. Faerlina is taken by our warrior MT near enough for consecrate to do damage and the adds to not have too far to travel. This helps also so the dps can just turn or move slightly to down the selected add for widows embrace.

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    Quite honestly for Faerlina my groups have had trouble with Window's Embrace not getting rid of the frenzy. Going on from that situation we've actually found it to be easier, not saying it's always the case, to use the achievement method for downing her. Though I can not remember whether or not we had those problems in the 10 man or 25 man, if the latter then killing the adds was a misunderstanding on our part explaining the missing WE. Never the less good explanation that's a really complicated fight to explain for some reason and even explaining it we've had people down the adds at the wrong time out of habit.

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    Hey guys, can someone tell me what addons Ciderhelm uses? Could be good if someone post a list of addons that are on this video.

    - The one that appears target health and target from target health.
    - The one that appears messages like: Sword and Boar!, Revenge!
    - The one that shows the % of health and rage.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marotgus View Post
    So 25 man faerlina was attempted again with the same results. The priest says there is nothing that she can use to dispel frenzy. Her husband even looked at her screen during the MC and he says the same thing. Again, all add-ons were off before we even zoned in.
    Same thing happened to me yesterday.

    I was ready to MC, no problems there, and preparing to run to Grand Widow and use the Embrace....but....it didn't appeared on the bar. I had only Attack and Firebolt (i think it was called). I dismissed and tried to MC another one and still no Embrace on the bar. I think I MC 4 times and nothing happened.

    Finally we got her down without using any embrace....and got the achievement as well, but still, I'm all confused why I didn't saw the embrace since another priest before me had it. (I'm using CT, not Dominos).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senti View Post
    Quite honestly for Faerlina my groups have had trouble with Window's Embrace not getting rid of the frenzy. Going on from that situation we've actually found it to be easier, not saying it's always the case, to use the achievement method for downing her. Though I can not remember whether or not we had those problems in the 10 man or 25 man, if the latter then killing the adds was a misunderstanding on our part explaining the missing WE. Never the less good explanation that's a really complicated fight to explain for some reason and even explaining it we've had people down the adds at the wrong time out of habit.
    Same thing keeps happening to my guild's group. We get to her enrage, take down one of the adds, and she hit me (the MT) like a truck. Maybe the solution for this problem is to simply have a priest MC one and drag it over to her, and do the WE, just to make sure that it isn't a range problem.

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    We no longer struggle with this, though it got us stuck for a while. (This is for 10 man... we only have enough for that.)

    One tank (me, for this fight) charges in and agros ALL mobs, holding them on the top of the platform. After a few seconds the other tank comes in and taunts Faerlina to the side, on the steps. Those few seconds are critical. The adds are oddly keen to run off after Faerlina, no idea why.

    We have a mage and a healer on the platform. I gather the mobs (shield bash and heroic throw are perfect for this, so don't use it on the pull) in a neat group and mage AoEs, down to about 20%, depending on how fine you can do it. Some people take them as low as 5%, but I prefer a nice margin. Tab target to keep all of them even and on you. Interrupt where possible to save your healer a bit, but they really do NOT hit hard. At this point you're just iddling. There's no skill required.

    Once you get them down to your predefined health, stop aoe and mage goes onto boss. When she is about to frenzy mage goes onto your target (meaning it's up the OT to be targetting the right add) and kills it very dead. Rinse and repeat.

    Ignore the rain of fire. It doesn't do much damage and you're better off keeping everything in the right position than trying to chase things around. Faerlina can be moved if you want, to spare the melee DPS, but it's not necessary.

    Once the last add is dead, both healers go onto targetting the MT, and the other tank goes to DPS on Faerlina as well.

    Try to kill her before she kills the tanks.

    There are a couple of things that can go wrong.

    1. Make sure NO DPS other than the single assigned mage (or whatever) hit an add, for any reason whatsoever. We've had death knights (it's always DKs, for some reason) decide to helpfully slaughter the adds.
    2. Make sure you're not too close. If you have one add getting hit by AoE on Faerlina you'll struggle to get them down evenly.
    3. Make sure you're not too far away. The area of effect for the Embrace isn't all that big. Err on the side of caution and pull one over before you kill it if need be.



    This makes for very easy raid instructions for all but the the one DPS: "Kill the skull."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakki View Post
    We downed her on the first try with our Naxx 10 raid Saturday (with, honestly, some really low DPS).

    It's a gimmick fight and not much else. If you've got the healing and the tanks to get through the trash to her, and your DPS knows when to switch targets, it's almost trivial to shut down her enrage and poison bolts. We had one of her enrages last for something like two-tenths of a second before the DPS finished off the last add.

    Mind you, if you screw up, it's gonna be tough. She DOES hit like a truck when she's enraged. You can afford to kill one add too early, but if you kill two at the wrong time, hope you've got some painkillers.
    with any fight in naxx.. as long as people lisen and understand its an easy clear IMO... the problem is when u get people that dont lisen and never done a fight..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hustin View Post
    Hey guys, can someone tell me what addons Ciderhelm uses? Could be good if someone post a list of addons that are on this video.

    - The one that appears target health and target from target health.
    - The one that appears messages like: Sword and Boar!, Revenge!
    - The one that shows the % of health and rage.

    Thanks.
    I'm not particularly sure about the particular ones that ciderhelm uses, but I use Scrolling Combat Text which shows up talent related procs, and other debuffs. I really want to know which particular addon setup ciderhelm uses, though, because I can't figure out how to make it circle around my character like that. It can get particularly annoying when you've got replenish/etc spamming over your character and you can't see what's going on.

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    I usually end up as MT through the spider wing myself. Our guild currently lacks a priest above level 20, so we rely on a Healadin to keep my vertical, and a hedge for raid heals. I keep my OT (Prot pally) on the platform with the 4 adds (Still in Naxx10, btw) and deathgrip them down to me as needed, and use the Widow's Embrace reactively to end enrages. Works like a charm when the necessary pugs aren't dim-witted beyond words lol
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    i just wanna know where to get the HUD or whatever like he has.

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    Go to our User Interface/Addons forums and go to the sub-forum UI Compilations.

    You'll find Cider's thread there as well as many other popular UIs.

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