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Ancient Aligned Girdle is many order of magnitudes better than the waistguard - 66 dodge is godly.
Yes, another comparison thread
Waistguard of the Tutor or Ancient Aligned Girdle
I've had both for some time now but just kept using Waistguard of the Tutor. I look to Ancient Aligned Girdle and seems like a real solid tanking piece for raids, but as soon as I switch the pieces to take a look, and I see my block% and my BV falling down, it makes me wanna cry =/
Stick with the Defense+Dodge one and leave the BV for heroics?
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Ancient Aligned Girdle is many order of magnitudes better than the waistguard - 66 dodge is godly.
Patchwerk hits you for 24000 (1000 blocked)
You dodge Patchwerk’s attack
I know what my healers would prefer!
Different gear for different fights.
Want to AOE tank 20 level 80 non elites? Use the waistguard, want to tank patchwerk? use the girdle. The waistgaurd is also usefull for loatheb (who hits for 2.5k on heroic, so 1000 SBV is significant)
When (SBV)/(average hit) is a large value (say 0.4 or larger) then use the waistguard, if it's a small number, use the girdle.
Tank Strong and Prosper
Agreed, the answer is both. They have different purposes and you should obtain them both.Originally Posted by shushikiary
Thank you guys, I think I just wanted someone telling be all this
Situational gear is situational, gotta collect them all heh
As the gear comes by I can restart to build Survival, BV, and other sets o/
Thank you all again!
[Tank Addict]
I picked up both belts and did some rough number crunching with my current gear.
If your average hit is less then 3500, use the Waistguard of the Tutor.
If your average hit is more then 3500, use the Ancient Aligned Girdle.
Note: The badge belt will replace Ancient Aligned Girdle for most high hit size fights, but the Waistguard is superior to both when average hit size is around 3k or lower.
I noticed a similar phenomenon when comparing other equal level SBV/SBR to dodge/parry items. The threshold seemed to come in the 3k-3.5k/hit range.
So in short, use the Waistguard for heroics, and the Girdle for raiding? Generally is a BV/EH set better for heroics? I ran AN last night, and was having rage issues, which I put down to having too much avoidance from Naxx gear.
im curious where the badge belt fits into this? its all i have, my luck on heroic drops is crap, and i rarely have a group for heroics that can actually kill the final boss in azjol Nerub.
my armory if anyone wants to see it The World of Warcraft Armory
I think the badge belt would inch slightly ahead - it has less stats off the bat, but an extra gem slot. I have the AN belt and won't bother with the badge one.
Yep, I've been using Badge belt for tanking big hitters and Waistguard for solo/heroic/trash content.
The badge one seems like a mix of both for me.
I'll get DPS gear before picking this, I think :P
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I still feel the Ancient aligned girdle from heroic AN is the best belt for tanking hard hitting bosses (such as patchwerk) in the game right now.
Seems to me that the Ablative Chitin Girdle is the overall best warrior belt in the game right now. Ancient Aligned Girdle has a bit more avoidance, but with the extra armor, hp, str, and hit, I think Chitin pulls a fair bit ahead.
Dodge scales better than parry, which is why you'll often see remarks that the Ancient Aligned Girdle is better, and as a piece for avoidance, it is. The Ablative Chitin Girdle is the best 'threat' belt in game at the moment, and the badge belt offers the best EH. You should have all three belts, and use the right one for the encounter. The chitin girdle will serve you well in heroics and on farm raid content, the badge belt is your best bet for new encounters that you're learning, and the aligned girdle is great for Patchwerk.
Ablative Chitin Girdle > Waistguard of Living Iron > Ancient Aligned Girdle
Keep the Waistguard of the Tutor for situation uses such as 5 mans and trash etc.
You can not compare extra hit + socket + str to a belt with a small bit of extra avoidance.
Last edited by rustyboy; 12-22-2008 at 10:28 PM.
Ablative really isn't that good for anything besides threat. And since threat is generally not too much of a concern, I find Ancient Aligned is the best belt for survivability.
It's basically 25 stamina vs 1% avoidance; 25 stamina is basically equivalant to a 16 dodge gem (24 stam vs 16 dodge), yet 16 dodge rating isn't even close to being 1% dodge.
This Belt
...Dropped for us a couple weeks ago, and I have to admit before actually READING it I got excited to see an epic tanking belt drop. However... I was stunned to see that ANY belt option mentioned in this thread so far is a better bet. I can't figure out why you'd use Fleshless.
Oh, and for my dollar, I use the badge belt most times and am trying to get Tutor for trash and heroics.
Yeah, it's unbelievable really, how bad Fleshless girdle is. It's bad for every purpose, there's a belt better than it for every situation
I ended up taking it, and just told the GM I would see if I could find a use for it (as MT I can usually mix/match to optimize in some way). I did, after all: I vendored it and put the money in the gbank, lol
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