Itemization Concerns

[Horacio]

Nothing big here, just followed this link and reviewing what I'm losing in the gear itemization process.

Naxx-10 Loot, Item changes, Blue posts

Ok, so basically we (warriors, at least) are getting strength added to our gear. On tier set pieces, its at the expense of Agility which is....well, nice. AGI is of limited utility at this point so meh.

For the most part, Def is being traded for STR and will cause many people to have to scrounge through thier bank or pester their JC friends/alts. A few enchants here and there will help. I stand to lose 26 Defense rating on gear and the 20 from the Anticipation change. 46 Defense rating or about 20 defense skill. Last night looking at my gear, switching some things around, I could get to 526 so I'm in the clear.

Question: Does Resilliance still give crit immunity in PvE? Dumb question maybe but a friend said he thought he heard this was changing. I have the [item]Merciless Gladiator's Shield Wall[/item] which would give me more play while keeping my EH high.

Anyhow, what was more alarming to me was the fact that in some cases, they robbed significant stats other than Def to get Strength. In particular, this was a little jaw dropping: [item]Girdle of the Fearless[/item] This is a GREAT belt and I love it. It delivers high EH and, Hit, and Expertise....until now. It seems the Hit is adios and that's not good.

Thing is, I'm not at hit cap as it is but I'm within shouting distance. I rely upon superior threat building skills and technique while pushing my mitigation and avoidance higher. I don't have threat issues very often and I can attribute most of them to not staying sharp and being a little rusty. Playing 5 lvl 70's and 3 20something alts atm isn't condusive to staying cutting edge.

Still...that's rather alarming and I thought I would point it out for those rolling with some of that gear. We have been concerned about a loss of crit immunity and glossed over other important stats that may be altered.

[mero12513]

I have heard nothing to suggest that Resilience will no longer reduce PVE crits. I should still work exactly as it has before, so your S2 shield should be perfectly fine as far as I know.

[Ornn]

I believe that the old Anticipation gave 20 defense skill, not 20 defense rating. So, you are going to lose a bit more.

[Compa]

damn that's a low hit.
I was counting on the hit rating from the badges of justice boots but it seems I will lie under the amount of hit rating I currently have
I could switch my maiden gloves for the Bonefist ones and my Gnomer autoblocker for the figurine of the colossus but that would drop my BV too low ¬¬
/sigh work is da poop I wanna get home to start checking the gear and stuff!!

I believe that the old Anticipation gave 20 defense skill, not 20 defense rating. So, you are going to lose a bit more.

that >.<

[jere]

Resilience still reduces crits. There was even a blue post saying that they didn't change resilience in that respect. Your friend heard an incorrect rumor somewhere.

[Horacio]

Yeah, I fail at math. That's why I leave it to the smart kids.

I lose about 31 Defense skill. As currently stacked, I'm still north of crit immune w/out adding the shield for resilliance.

[Compa]

how much Defense should I had prior to patch to be safe after patch?
I had 528 Defense, I have my figurine of the colossus just in case.

[Kininye]

I lost about 28 Defense on a good 40 hit on my everyday tanking set. I'm hoping with the threat changes I can put on my full mitigation gear which has truckloads of defense but has crappy hit.

It isn't just the Girdle of the Fearless that lost all of it's +hit, either. Bonefist Gauntlets got the same treatment .

[Dismember]

how much Defense should I had prior to patch to be safe after patch?
I had 528 Defense, I have my figurine of the colossus just in case.

Depends on your gear. Different items got hit harder with the defense nerf bat than others.

[Halgreg]

Aw man, this is news to me now. I wasn't planning on losing so much hit, particularly from the badge boots and gloves. Now it's time to evaluate how important keeping that 142 hit rating is threat-wise.

[Kazeyonoma]

I can confirm that on the PTR with my resil gear, never got crit, so resil still works for crit immunity in PvE.

[Horacio]

I lost about 28 Defense on a good 40 hit on my everyday tanking set. I'm hoping with the threat changes I can put on my full mitigation gear which has truckloads of defense but has crappy hit.

It isn't just the Girdle of the Fearless that lost all of it's +hit, either. Bonefist Gauntlets got the same treatment .

The belt is too good to bank at my gear availabilty but the gloves might be. That skank Maiden finally coughed up a pair of her gauntlets for me....time to get those ready.