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    Demoralizing Shout

    Greetings,
    My question involves the famously announed Demoralizing Shout. I read on another website that Demoralizing Shout reduces melee AP by 15%, while a full 5/5 points in Demoralizing Shout reduces the melee AP by an additional 40%, therefor a total of 55%. Does this sound right? Is it efficiant to place 5 points into this talent, with the usual 5% extra crit in the fury tree? In order for me to have enough points, I would have to take out 2 improved heroic strike, and 3 in improved defensive stance (reduce spell damage taken by 6%). Please help.

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    Vanderbart

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    Anyone?

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    I also want to know about how much it really takes down. (:

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    The way I recall, bosses typically have 350 AP. Untalented, demo shout would reduce the bosses AP by 300, leaving him with a remaining 50 AP. With 2/5 imp. demo shout, however, the ability would reduce the bosses AP by 348 (300*1.16=348), leaving him with 2 AP. 5/5 imp. demo shout reduces the AP of the boss by 420, however (300*1.4=420). Clearly over-kill in that case. However, if a warlock puts curse of recklessness on the boss (loses 800 armour, but gains 135 AP, bringing it up to 485), and the warrior has 5/5 imp. demo shout, the boss would be down to 65 AP, and still lose that 800 armour, which is a pretty significant DPS increase for melee, and a TPS increase for the tank.

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    Nobody knows the absolute numbers, but the rule is:
    2/5 fully negated w/o reck
    5/5 ~ fully negated w/ reck

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    So uh. Is it worth using whenever I'm training?

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    If you have rage to spare with your other attacks on cooldown, go right ahead. Use it on hard hitting melee, but not casters.
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    I know that last part. But isn't it more effective to use as the first skill?

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    I don't use Demo Shout myself because I kill very quickly, but if you're going to use it, open with it and refresh when you need to. You'll get a feel for how much damage you're taking and decide whether to use it or not on a case-by-case basis.
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    Alright and thanks. I'm a noob. ):

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    If you are a tank, you should never have more than two points in demo shout. If you are in a raid situation (25 mans) where a lock will be using curse of recklessness, then more than likely you will have another warrior who can spec 5/5 demo shout to compensate. Its just too important for a tank to have those points elsewhere and the only time the 3 additional points will only be useful is when curse of recklessness is up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattdeeze View Post
    If you are a tank, you should never have more than two points in demo shout. If you are in a raid situation (25 mans) where a lock will be using curse of recklessness, then more than likely you will have another warrior who can spec 5/5 demo shout to compensate. Its just too important for a tank to have those points elsewhere and the only time the 3 additional points will only be useful is when curse of recklessness is up.
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    Uh what is /thread? =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by xSteve View Post
    Uh what is /thread? =/
    It's used by WoW forum posters to indicate a thread is finished. (alternative is </thread>, based on HTML)
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    Ah alright. Thanks. (: /thread. Lol.

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    Hi , this is not a reply but a question touching the same subject

    I'm finding myself in the OT position most of the times because I'm basically the newer tank in my guild . I have decided to spec 8/10/43 giving myself the 5 points in improved demo shout and TC , which I feel as an OT you will have a better opertunity to make sure they are kept up all the time .

    My question is firstly is this an viable option to help the raid and secondly if I have to MT will I be ok to do it in that spec ?

    Lionides

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