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    I entered Ciderhelm's URL into that page but the last line (TPS) is empty.
    Am I suppose to use a different URL?

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    They recently changed the WWS format, and that threat calc might not be updated for it. Since the change went in yesterday, the WWS website stil has some bugs, so I woud give it a few. /shrug

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    TPS epeen thread?!?! How did I not see this earlier!

    Secure - WWS

    Total amount of dmg threat: 202683.13
    Total amount of skill threat: 70278.82875
    Total amount of healing threat: 21555.53
    Total threat: 294518
    Duration: 226 seconds (02:34'03 to 02:37'49)
    TPS: 1303

    ^^ "Naked" group parse, mediocre +hit and expertise worn for that parse


    Xavastrasz - WWS

    Total amount of dmg threat: 201926.66
    Total amount of skill threat: 63220.56
    Total amount of healing threat: 13111.05
    Total threat: 278258
    Duration: 192 seconds (05:57'34 to 06:00'46)
    TPS: 1449

    WWS Loading...

    Total amount of dmg threat: 210400.32
    Total amount of skill threat: 64573.535
    Total amount of healing threat: 27269.2
    Total threat: 302243
    Duration: 202 seconds (05:21'48 to 05:25'10)
    TPS: 1496


    I derived the TPS manually, since I've already looked at these reports before the WWS format changed, and you can do it simply yourself by taking the information provided, it's just on different pages, and doing it yourself.

    Still not capped out, haven't yet combined a feral druid AND a WF totem, and haven't had a survival hunter, either. So giddy! Going to obviously have fun once Darkmoon Faire rolls around and we decide to use it, big numbers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xav View Post
    big numbers!
    NOT AS BIG AS MINE, SUCKA!

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    can't see your warriors threat for some reason gee whiz!
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    i need someone to tclap and demo for me

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    Sup Byechee!

    Anways, still no +hit boots or +expertise gloves X_X. Once I get them I will repost and use the absolute best group setup possible to see how far I can take it.

    Xav what was the exact group setup and spec's of the 1449 tps parse?

    Did you have a Blood Frenzy warrior, Expose weakness hunter? CoR etc I am curious =]

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    this week i'm just gonna screw using tclap and demo shout. hopefully all 3 locks show up, and hopefully one of our hunters is still survival. And i'm going to try to convince a holy pally to spend his extra points in imp judgment of the crusader lul.

    and maybe i'll ninja the enh shaman from the melee group too! (not bloodly likely).

    p.s. sup robeh, i finally got a shield ^_^. i got your bewtz and gloves, but you probably have the belt and supremus ring on me.

    p.p.s. last i tried that threat site just gives me errors when I try to input my parses

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    1530 TPS tonight! Definite new high.

    You can see the raid comp in the WWS, had one of everything basically, which is typical (survival, blood frenzy, etc). I used standard threat gear, 4 piece T6, gorefiend gloves, Pepe's, Mallet, etc - nothing "suicidal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xav View Post
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    1530 TPS tonight! Definite new high.

    You can see the raid comp in the WWS, had one of everything basically, which is typical (survival, blood frenzy, etc). I used standard threat gear, 4 piece T6, gorefiend gloves, Pepe's, Mallet, etc - nothing "suicidal"
    Hey do you know what your buffed hit and expertise rating was for this?

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    Uh I'm not hit capped in my threat set, no real way to achieve that with the setup I want currently, when I get Kaz'rogal's shield I'll be hitcapped. (I'm 1.7% hit or so from the cap in the set I wear on Gorefiend). Expertise I get up to -8.75% each, which is 35 expertise skill. I wear all the standard pieces, including the Shapeshifter's Signet. The most recent parse (which I didn't link here, but have it below, I didn't try hard for threat on past the first 60 seconds, due to massive raid failure), was still a 1500+ tps log, but a different setup.

    I was at 5.71% hit (90 rating), 35 expertise, in this parse: (1511 tps, newer) Xavastrasz - WWS
    and the older one I was actually using Pepe's instead of the PvP cloak, and had 7.29% hit (115 rating).

    I naturally have room to improve there by capping my hit out, but can't really do it too easily in my gear for it atm. (I swap out my cloak to the pvp cloak, so that's why I lose hit, but gain some crit, ap, and armor pen, that's the only swap I make).

    I may be gemming an extra tank belt for hit while I wait for Kaz'rogal's shield.
    Last edited by Xav; 01-25-2008 at 10:29 PM.
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    My personal best on Gorefiend. Only group buff I recieved was a kitty druid.

    WWS Loading...

    Only difference between then & now is that my hit rating is capped, lost some SBV, and my parry is a little higher from upgrading to Prae Legs from T5.

    Battle time in seconds: 278

    Heroic Strike:
    Amount: 63269 Hits: 107 Crits: 29 Dmg Threat: 94587.155 Skill Threat: 44730.4
    Shield slam:
    Amount: 26923 Hits: 22 Crits: 7 Dmg Threat: 40249.885 Skill Threat: 13309.985
    Melee:
    Amount: 8554 Hits: 29 Crits: 5 Dmg Threat: 12788.23 Skill Threat: 0
    Revenge:
    Amount: 14851 Hits: 28 Crits: 7 Dmg Threat: 22202.245 Skill Threat: 10517.325
    Devastate:
    Amount: 17933 Hits: 37 Crits: 13 Dmg Threat: 26809.835 Skill Threat: 7549.75
    Shield Bash:
    Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
    Cleave:
    Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
    Thunder Clap:
    Amount: 1414 Hits: 8 Crits: Dmg Threat: 2113.93 Skill Threat: 3699.3775
    Reflect:
    Amount: 673 Hits: 29 Crits: Dmg Threat: 1006.135 Skill Threat: 0
    Vengeance:
    Amount: 3146 Hits: 31 Crits: Dmg Threat: 4703.27 Skill Threat: 0
    Thunderfury:
    Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
    Deep Wound:
    Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
    Lifebloom:
    Amount: 7943 Overheal: 55% Threat: 3574.35
    Earthshield:
    Amount: 25908 Overheal: 14% Threat: 22280.88
    Prayer of Mending:
    Amount: 28935 Overheal: 17% Threat: 24016.05

    Total amount of dmg threat: 204460.685
    Total amount of skill threat: 79806.8375
    Total amount of healing threat: 26722.815

    TPS: 1118.670278777

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    How are you guys hitting so hard? My average damage is way lower than most of you guys.

    I have a mallet, expertise softcap, and ~7% here. Wartorn - WWS

    Total amount of dmg threat: 194403.82
    Total amount of skill threat: 77662.63375
    Total amount of healing threat: 32397.86

    TPS: 1127.6456064815

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    Yes, Yes, No. We even have a survival huntard, but no Imp. Hunter's Mark.

    Still can't figure out how Xav's avg melee hit is 100 damage more than mine.

    /sadface

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    I call Hax.

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    Paladin threat aint got nothin!

    Wartorn, given that even my Revenges were all over 10% larger than yours, I think it can be safely attributed to executioner enchant. That, and perhaps I had a higher (100%?) uptime of SoE, battle shout, and so forth, than you.

    Edit: Judging from the fact that my average hit taken was also substantially less damage than you, this is probably just a matter of overall raid "togetherness" and uptime of buffs. Demo, Sblock, TC, Battle shout, expose weakness, soe, etc. (Although I do Ironshield, that's gonna cut off 500ish damage, not 1300~)
    Last edited by Xav; 01-30-2008 at 03:14 PM.
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    Thanks for the feedback Xav. I'll probably start gathering mats for Executioner today. Also, after analyzing our WWS I noticed I need to tighten up my threat rotation as well.

    I guess that the difference between trailblazers and coattailers, huh?

    /swoon

    Edit : New weapon (swiftsteel), no enchant. Tightened up my rotation a bit, but I still have room for improvement.

    Total amount of dmg threat: 254888.53
    Total amount of skill threat: 97964.36
    Total amount of healing threat: 44936.1

    TPS: 1353.0237755102

    Wartorn - WWS
    Last edited by Wartorn; 01-31-2008 at 06:32 AM.

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    I'm curious what kind of set ups you guys are using gear-wise for your Gorefiend benchmarks. Last night we did another round on Gorefiend, wearing the gear in my armory, with a resto shammy's WF totem, DPS warrior's battleshout, and a feral druid's crit bonus.

    Log: Malignus - WWS

    Result:
    Total amount of dmg threat: 198621.215
    Total amount of skill threat: 73384.69125
    Total amount of healing threat: 19356.15

    TPS: 1165.448225

    Rough breakdown of unbuffed stats from gear are:
    HP: 17.2k
    Armor: 17.4k
    AP: 636
    Hit rating: 142
    Crit: 11.99%
    Expertise: 21 (5.25% dodge/parry reduction)
    Defense: 506
    Dodge: 24.57%
    Parry: 19.28%
    Block: 20.04%
    Passive SBV: 440

    I reviewed my threat rotation, and it was a near-perfect 5 minutes of the SS->Rev->Dev->Dev rotation, obviously weaving in HS as rage allowed. 2 rounds of Autoblocker buff (I saved these to coincide with bloodrage cooldowns to not waste SS's to rage starvation). I even timed 90% of my shield slams to coincide with shield block for the extra SBV from the 2 pc. T5 bonus.

    Any assistance in increasing this would be appreciated. At this point, I'm not convinced I can do much more without particular BT upgrades dropping, such as Gurtogg's Belt, Legionkiller, and stuff off bosses we haven't killed yet (Shaz/Council/Illidan). I'd love to run Naxx for the Sapphiron trinket, but no one on our server wants to do it anymore.

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    I think I already wrote it once, but anyway. I use 4 piece T6, with gorefiend gloves, and Shapeshifter's Signet. I've worn a worse threat suit and pulled 1300+ multiple times, with worse group makeups. (Worse in that I was missing expertise and even more hit). Note I'm also not hit capped, and am 1-2% off from the hitcap in any of my setups currently.

    You should be able to pull 1300+ easily with the setup you have and that group, if not 1400+

    One comment though is that your shield slams are very small, abnormally small, that almost doesn't look right. My average shield slams are like 1000, and that's without stacking block gear, but that is 4 piece T6 bonus. Your average is 600, and your max only 1200?

    I don't use two threat trinkets, I just use autoblocker + moroes pocket watch.

    I don't really know why your threat is so low, but I'd get Executioner first off if you want higher threat, the rest might be just better gear choices of button pushing. :? Also get badge bracers.

    Another edit: I just looked at a WWS of me tanking Gorefiend months ago in terrible gear, and had drastically higher numbers for shield slam, and similar numbers for melee hits/heroic. I was using Partial T5, and no BT tanking items. This was also before ZA was out. The log isn't threat-calculator-able because it's from a locally hosted WWS which is in a different format.

    Another edit: You're having far too many regular swings in there. You shouldn't really be rage starved with that type of gear, since your avoidance isn't high. My average normal melee % is like 5-9%, yours is 15% there.

    This is the gear I use, only moused over boots cause the rest is obvious just stam gems. That's an extra pair of Myrmidons so I put hit in them. I use Dory's Embrace lately instead of Pepe's, which is a tradeoff of hit/dodge for crit/ap/armor pen, nothing too huge when you look at the alternative cloak really.

    ImageShack - Hosting :: threatnz0.jpg

    That's as arms so I'm missing the expertise from Defiance, and the AP/STR (and stam) from vitality.
    The gun is gemmed +10 hit also. Screenshot was taken in berserker stance, so my crit is 3 lower than that actually. Just slapped it on between queues, sorry.

    Another late edit: You aren't getting Earth Shield, however you are getting PoM, which is basically as good, so it's a wash. If you got ES and PoM your threat would be higher, since they're a nice amount of healing threat. (I generally don't get PoM)
    Last edited by Xav; 01-31-2008 at 07:48 PM.
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    I did gorefiend last night and got a poorly 900-ish tps. /cry. Could somebody cast their eyes over this and see what I messed up on.

    I've currently logged out in the kit I was using on gorefiend.

    I guess I could have used shapeshifters / mallet / autoblocker to get a bit more threat too.

    Thanks.

    WWS Loading...

    Battle time in seconds: 272

    Heroic Strike:
    Amount: 36213 Hits: 85 Crits: 7 Dmg Threat: 54138.435 Skill Threat: 30258.8
    Shield slam:
    Amount: 26108 Hits: 28 Crits: 3 Dmg Threat: 39031.46 Skill Threat: 14227.915
    Melee:
    Amount: 14240 Hits: 53 Crits: 7 Dmg Threat: 21288.8 Skill Threat: 0
    Revenge:
    Amount: 14571 Hits: 34 Crits: 3 Dmg Threat: 21783.645 Skill Threat: 11118.315
    Devastate:
    Amount: 15501 Hits: 51 Crits: 3 Dmg Threat: 23173.995 Skill Threat: 8153.73
    Shield Bash:
    Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
    Cleave:
    Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
    Thunder Clap:
    Amount: 1416 Hits: 8 Crits: Dmg Threat: 2116.92 Skill Threat: 3704.61
    Reflect:
    Amount: 633 Hits: 31 Crits: Dmg Threat: 946.335 Skill Threat: 0
    Vengeance:
    Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
    Thunderfury:
    Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
    Deep Wound:
    Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
    Lifebloom:
    Amount: 3212 Overheal: 100% Threat: 4.5474735088646E-13
    Earthshield:
    Amount: 7716 Overheal: 3% Threat: 7484.52
    Prayer of Mending:
    Amount: 41095 Overheal: 11% Threat: 36574.55

    Total amount of dmg threat: 162479.59
    Total amount of skill threat: 67463.37
    Total amount of healing threat: 22029.535

    TPS: 926.36946691176

    -- gyre --
    Last edited by gyre; 02-01-2008 at 02:18 AM.

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