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    New Devastate Parsing and Mathcraft

    Okay so Fame helped us out and tested this out on the server, he has defiance, and he is using a weapon

    Test 1 was messed up, deleted till I have time to fix

    Okay, test set 2 no shield this time:

    Test 1:
    45 auto, 24 dev

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    34
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    18
    Total Damage needed to pull threat: 422
    422 * .71 (rogue threat modifier) = 299.62
    299.62 / 1.10 (10% extra threat needed to get agro) = 272.38
    272.38 / 1.495 (defensive stance and defiance) =
    182.19 - (42 + 24) = 116.19 threat generated
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    24 dev

    36
    18
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    35
    17
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    18
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    35

    Total Damage needed to pull threat: 302
    302 * .71 (rogue threat modifier) = 214.42
    214.42 / 1.10 (10% extra threat needed to get agro) = 194.927
    194.927 / 1.495 (defensive stance and defiance) = 130.39
    130.39 - 24 = 106.39 threat generated
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    24 dev, 46 auto

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    Total Damage needed to pull threat: 443
    443 * .71 (rogue threat modifier) = 314.53
    314.53 / 1.10 (10% extra threat needed to get agro) = 285.94
    285.94 / 1.495 (defensive stance and defiance) = 191.264
    191.264 - (46+24) = 123.264 threat generated
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    44 auto, 48 dev (crit)

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    70

    Total Damage needed to pull threat: 458
    458 * .71 (rogue threat modifier) = 325.18
    325.18 / 1.10 (10% extra threat needed to get agro) = 295.62
    295.62 / 1.495 (defensive stance and defiance) = 197.74
    197.74 - (44+48) = 105.74 threat generated
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    24 dev 79 dev 111 dev 145 dev, 44 auto

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    41
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    35
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    Total Damage needed to pull threat: 1885
    1885 * .71 (rogue threat modifier) = 1338.35
    1338.35 / 1.10 (10% extra threat needed to get agro) = 1216.68
    1216.68 / 1.495 (defensive stance and defiance) = 813.83
    813.83 - ((24+79+111+145+44)) = 410.83 threat generated

    410.83 / 4 devastates = 102.71 threat per devastate


    So averages:

    (116.19+106.39+123.26+105.74+102.71)/5 = ~ 110.858 threat innately

    My math might be wrong somewhere, crimsonstorm says it should be 101 threat. Which can be accounted that none of these attacks were so minute. Its very likely that they hit for more than exactly 110% of the threat and thus the number is off by +/-8 damage/threat

    These are my findings, correct me if i'm wrong guys, but this is not a buff to devastate threat at all.
    Last edited by Kazeyonoma; 10-14-2007 at 02:09 AM.

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    holy hell

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    Woot, Blizz likes prot wars, they really do

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    Its probably a 100TPS boost.


    Now the question is:
    Is devastate better than revenge??

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    that's what i said after the very first calculation, i knew it was in the 300's, that's friggen crazy.

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    Blizz loves prot warriors EXCEPT IN PVP

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    You said you were using a rogue partner. What about his passive threat reduciton for being a rogue??

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    (Which makes me think it might be 400??)

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    What if the devastates that apply sunder are 101+301 bonnus threat, but devastates that only refresh are 101??

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    what is the innate rogue reduction, if it is non-talented (his rogue had no talents) then it very well might be higher, i'll redo math if this is true.

    and i asked fame to go aehad and do a test with two devastates and see what it does, but we need to figure out the first devastates threat first

    I imagine it's straight 300-400 each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimsonstorm View Post
    Blizz loves prot warriors EXCEPT IN PVP
    they're gettin there

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    Went out to blasted lands to test out the new dev. the first set of numbers is what i did in def stance with defiance. the second list is the auto attacks a non talented rogue did. the last number on the list was the last attack made before pulling hate.

    45 auto, 24 dev

    35
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    34
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    24 dev

    36
    18
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    37
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    35

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    24 dev, 46 auto

    18
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    44 autp, 48 dev (crit)

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    70

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    24 dev 79 dev 111 dev 145 dev, 44 auto

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    81
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    35
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    could he do a "targer=Mouseover" macro to do the devistate without the auto hit?

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    Rogue threat is 71% of normal (29% reduction). Its passive

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    I'll redo the math thanks fame

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    1 sunder

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    1 sunder

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    68

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    Actually, I think its between 135 and 150

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    yeh my numbers came out to 162 avg, so maybe its in the 150 area.

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    It seems like they buffed it a little


    But if its around 135-150, then with 0 sunders we're talking about:

    Dev: 135 + ~80 = 215 * defiance/defensive
    Sunder = 301

    Takes until about 2-3 sunders before dev is as good

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