Heroic Loot vs. Tier 6

[Satrina]

Onslaught Legguards
1597 Armor
+24 Agility
+78 Stamina
[Red Socket]
[+3 Stamina Socket Bonus]
Equip: Increases defense rating by +40 (16.9).
Equip: Increases your parry rating by 41 (1.7%).
Equip: Increases the block value of your shield by 42.

Unwavering Legguards
1406 Armor
+73 Stamina
[Red Socket]
[Yellow Socket]
[Blue Socket]
[+6 Stamina Socket Bonus]
Equip: Increases defense rating by 22.
Equip: Increases your shield block rating by 30.
Equip: Increases the block value of your shield by 59.

lol?

[Ciderhelm]

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What's worse is that T6 tanks would be more likely to wear Unwavering to help reach passively uncrushable.

[Miola]

Perhaps this is Blizzard's way of making progression easier for the guilds who got started late in raiding?

I mean...it's not a nerf to the instance if you rediculously overgear everyone....right? lol

[Kazeyonoma]

how many badges does that cost, cuz at this rate, i'm never getting curators legs, and I WONT HAVE TO! NAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA ;x

[Honorshammer]

The badge legs are horrible for passive uncrushablility providing only 1.47% to passive Uncrushability versus Wyrnn's 3.35%. Onslaught provides 3.98%.

[Kazeyonoma]

uhh, sbr gives a lot it converts at a very low rate, and when going for passive uncrushability, sbr is the cheapest and fastest stat to go for.

[Crimsonstorm]

The badge legs are horrible for passive uncrushablility providing only 1.47% to passive Uncrushability versus Wyrnn's 3.35%. Onslaught provides 3.98%.

Did you miss the 30 block rating? Theyre like 5.5% total. And T5 are like 5%, you forgot the dodge from Agi I think.

Those legs are SO GOOOOOOOOOOOD.

Other things that are unbelievably good are the expertise neck and bracers. Mostly becasue expertise is amazing for our aggro gen. when tanking.

T6 is still better though overall. Just not by a lot.

[Shaiden]

What's amusing is that to reach BT, even if you gear up in ZA, you still have to learn all the fights in SSC/TK.

No amount of +stam will save you if your raid can't get in the water. ^_-

EDIT:
Wow, my tankspot sig just updated for my primal grinding fury build. I feel squishy now next to all of your sigs.

[Horacio]

As someone who stands to benefit enormously from the addition of new items, I think they are too powerful. As was mentioned above, I can tell you it ain't gear holding my raid back. Its time and execution. We only have 2 nights for 25 mans and we have enough casual players that cannot click, jump in the water, whatever that learning a boss has a steep curve. This gear would help us but I am willing to bet its going to be the same people already geared up lining up in Shat when the patch goes live and the slackers will still be screwing around doing God knows what with thier time in game.

That being said, my arse is gonna be grinding heroics till the cows come home to have a stockpile of badges ready to spend.

And the avg wait on char copies to the PTR.....4 days...WTF?!?

[Kazeyonoma]

*points and laughs at 17k effective health shaiden*

edit:
and seriously horacio, i wanna get on damnit, i went hom at 6pm last night, i should've just copied then -_-' sob.

heroic grind here i come again!

[Berginyon]

MMOChampion is reporting it for 75 badges. 15 runs of Heroic Mech? This is getting silly if it is for real.

But if you check out their screenshots, you can see that some of the items they list as badge loot they have dropping from Zul'Aman bosses, so I think something is mixed up.

The new items with weapon skill/expertise are my favorite:

Neck: Brooch of Deftness (48STA, 22hit, 21expertise)
Bracers of the Ancient Phalanx (703Armor, 45STA, 23Def, 22Expertise)

[Satrina]

I could see those dropping from Zul'Aman. That would make much more sense than 75 badges.

[Kazeyonoma]

seriously, but apparently zul'aman and karazhan bosses will drop badges as well, so its not all just heroic mech =x

[adrenalize]

Well, one of the Cloaks(the Melee DPS one I beleive) dropped In ZA I think, And i am sure that it is a badge reward, so maybe some pieces will drop as welll.

[Berginyon]

seriously, but apparently zul'aman and karazhan bosses will drop badges as well, so its not all just heroic mech =x

Yea but 75 badges still equals 8 weeks of full Kara clears to get 1 item. Maybe 10 man raids will drop 2 per boss? I could see it then. But I still think most of this will be ZA drops.

[Kazeyonoma]

hopefully berg.

[Crimsonstorm]

ZA bosses are 2 per boss, or at least the hard ones are. I saw screenshots.

[Kazeyonoma]

sick.

[Berginyon]

It is 75 badges, not a drop. I barely had the patience to grind for the autoblocker and that is only 44.

[Crimsonstorm]

*points and laughs at 17k effective health shaiden*

lol.

When I get all the new items, Im goign to have over 17k ACTUAL health