# Thread: Defense vs. Crit Chance

1. ## Defense vs. Crit Chance

This assumes PvE, where the opponent's weapon skill is (Level x 5), or 400 and 415 respectively on the table
below. In a PvP encounter, players get many bonuses to weapon skill and chance to critical hit from their items and talents,
which will make their chance to critically hit different from the results of this table.

Code:
```Defense	Level	Level		Defense	Level	Level
80	 83		 	 80	 83
400	5.00%	5.60%		475	2.00%	2.60%
405	4.80%	5.40%		480	1.80%	2.40%
410	4.60%	5.20%		485	1.60%	2.20%
415	4.40%	5.00%		490	1.40%	2.00%
420	4.20%	4.80%		495	1.20%	1.80%
425	4.00%	4.60%		500	1.00%	1.60%
430	3.80%	4.40%		505	0.80%	1.40%
435	3.60%	4.20%		510	0.60%	1.20%
440	3.40%	4.00%		515	0.40%	1.00%
445	3.20%	3.80%		520	0.20%	0.80%
450	3.00%	3.60%		525	0.00%	0.60%
455	2.80%	3.40%		530		0.40%
460	2.60%	3.20%		535		0.20%
465	2.40%	3.00%		540		0.00%
470	2.20%	2.80%```

2. Father of 2 and a Tank
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Satrina,

Sorry to raise an old thread but have a mate who got crit at 542. According to tank points he had a 0.04 chance of being crit.

Pluggins some number in got me to 543.

3. Perhaps diminishing returns has kicked our ass?

4. New Registrant
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Oh no it starts again:

A:"Yes there is a 0,<insert a totally random number of zeros>1 chance you get critically hit with additional 140 defense"
B:"Prove it"
.... troll ... spam...

Up to the point when someone says that if Blizzard implementet such a small number there were much more warriors documenting such crits (very much players). In fact most people reporting this did one of the following misstakes:
- Changed some gear before the fight were not crit imune and didn't realize that
- Hit the sit down button
- Fighting against a 4 level higher mob
- Got pre WotLK or now against a 4 level higher mob crushed and thougt it was a crit

I admit there is allways the technical possibility that some bits in the server change wrong and this leads to no other misstakes but you getting crit... Well there is a chance that a meteorite is crashing into your house right now.

If you are level 80 and tank points shows a chance of being crit against a level 83 mob with 540 defense - delete it and get a new version.

As for the crit, not enough information given. See post above, but also what was he fighting? If it was a dual wielding mob, good chance it's a rogue type.

6. Unpossible!
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One particular mob that doesn't Dual Wield but can still crit is the Unbound Firestorm - NPC - World of Warcraft , which gives itself an "Afterburner" Buff, increasing it's chance to crit by 50%. I haven't noticed anything else, and I've tanked/OT'd every instance available.

7. Father of 2 and a Tank
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Thanks for the constructive answer Satrina.

As it wasn't me I cannot be certain what he was tanking. Only that it was a standard 80 elite, ie. not a raid elite.

The DW mob could be the answer.

Cheers,

Shagh

8. Aero
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Not that it matters, but I believe the first boss in H UK will crit a tank with 541+, if I remember correctly. I can probably go in there in my tanking gear and grab a combat log from it later to confirm/disprove my memory. Then again, this isn't exactly progression raiding, but the thing to tae away from this would be (if it's true, and I'm not spewing stuff out of my... yeah) that Blizzard still uses bosses with a higher than normal crit chance for flavor.
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