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    Just trying to show the importance of a correct...

    Just trying to show the importance of a correct rotation based on math and my findings and results in game. Then comparing with others to see if i missed anything.

    Slam procs are listed under...
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    afm171 aka Niphaphorn. Apologies in advance as...

    afm171 aka Niphaphorn. Apologies in advance as this isn't meant to slam you. Pardon the pun. But i'm drinking here. You should probably be posting in the Halp section. However since i used myself and...
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    For me currently Vengeful noose beats Astrylian's...

    For me currently Vengeful noose beats Astrylian's Sutured Cinch by 25 dps. Only because i'm over the crit softcap. So BIS list is sometimes only BIS when you actually have every piece on that list....
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    I don't usually answer PMs. As i said previously...

    I don't usually answer PMs. As i said previously i don't even notice when i have a PM. For curiosity i just looked up and saw one. It was sent 7 days ago. Doh. And apologies but i don't usually...
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    Well last nite went well. This week we had 25...

    Well last nite went well. This week we had 25 guys in our raid. And yay a shaman this time for Bloodlust/Heroism. My latency was good last nite. Settings in the spreadsheet were 210 reaction time and...
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    Ty for the latency confirmation. Leatrix here as...

    Ty for the latency confirmation. Leatrix here as well. I check many logs. Yours was a good example to show to everyone else and to verify Landsoul's spreadsheet and ability usage . It just verifies...
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    I've had my spec since before Yog Saron and well...

    I've had my spec since before Yog Saron and well before they fixed HS and Cleave proccing Unbridled Wrath in jan or feb. Since it no longer procs off those abilities UB has become extremely weak. ...
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    Bah, see i was wrong again. Well at least i'll...

    Bah, see i was wrong again. Well at least i'll keep my record of being wrong 80% of the time intact. I gave up betting escorts. Don't want to go broke. Check is in the mail. ;)
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    I just posted it in his thread 20 minutes ago. 10...

    I just posted it in his thread 20 minutes ago. 10 bucks says he ignores it completely. I don't PM people. Mainly because it takes me literally 1 1/2 weeks before i notice "you have 1 new message"....
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    No problem dude. I'd say you're doing pretty damn...

    No problem dude. I'd say you're doing pretty damn good. Looking at your last worldoflogs parse on 4-6-2010. Looking at your Festergut kill. I don't know what your latency is. So i'm using 100 in the...
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    If you wish to know how many WW, BT and Slams you...

    If you wish to know how many WW, BT and Slams you should be doing a fight you can add the following cell calculations to Landsoul's spreadsheet.

    (Bloodthirst totals)
    Cell H47 =G44*Q52
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    My math was done over 10 months ago. It works for...

    My math was done over 10 months ago. It works for all gear levels as far as i know. Although i didn't do math for below BIS Nax gear. Basically if you Slam it's just over a 4% increase in dps. With...
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    The rotation you posted above is still showing...

    The rotation you posted above is still showing wait and not stating to use Slam in step 4. Step 4 should look exactly like step 6 followed by step 7a and 7b. Total rotation time being 9.0 seconds...
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    I'll repeat what's already been said. When we say...

    I'll repeat what's already been said. When we say slam we always mean an instant Slam. Never cast a non instant Slam. Yes fit 2 slams in the rotation where free,wait is. T-4 4 piece bonus or not.
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    Try, check page 20 post #386. For T-10 4 piece...

    Try, check page 20 post #386. For T-10 4 piece procs it just lowers the total rotation time from what i posted which increases dps. It does not change your rotation from what i show for non T-4 procs.
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    In relation to that and getting back to what i...

    In relation to that and getting back to what i said about the Slam stopcasting macro. If i hit HS once per 1.1 seconds

    For example looking at a recent Festergut fight of mine that i got 11,258dps...
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    Your understanding is wrong. Test it on a dummy...

    Your understanding is wrong. Test it on a dummy and get back to me. I do not support a macro that provides a loss in DPS.
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    I'd like to add that a stop cast macro for Slam...

    I'd like to add that a stop cast macro for Slam is a dps loss. Not only can it delay your swing a bit. But most importantly it cancels Heroic Strike or Cleave. I've tried the macro last weekend and...
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    No it is showing the average of MH and OH hits...

    No it is showing the average of MH and OH hits and the average of MH and OH crits. That is what makes it look low. Do as Kaz said and double what recount shows to get exactly how much ww hits for.
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    The rotation doesn't change because of 4T10. It...

    The rotation doesn't change because of 4T10. It merely decreases rotation time thereby increasing overall dps. A double Slam should only be used during the "Free,Wait" portion of the rotation with or...
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    Math looks good to me. And that equates to. ...

    Math looks good to me. And that equates to.

    5432.78-1877.61=3555.17 total gain per 9 second rotation

    3555.17/9=395.02 dps gain per rotation

    That's fairly close to what i had in post #386....
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    Very good points and i like your line of...

    Very good points and i like your line of reasoning. I would assume Shattering throw is like Heroic throw and resets your main hand swing timer. So going back to Shattering Throw then Rend. This...
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    thegreatme please update your Rend rotation to...

    thegreatme please update your Rend rotation to only be used during Free. The way you have it currently is a dps loss. It should be as follows.

    WW,BT,Rend,Wait,BT,Wait

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    Yes that was with 2 points in imp rend. I only...

    Yes that was with 2 points in imp rend. I only wish i had an exact and accurate number for rend use. Listing a max possible before subtracting real losses just confuses people. I added a 2nd table to...
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    #showtooltip Rend /cast [stance:1] Rend; Battle...

    #showtooltip Rend
    /cast [stance:1] Rend; Battle Stance
    /stopcasting
    /cast Berserker Stance

    This is the best macro and i'll explain what it does. First it will only cast Rend if you're in Battle...
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