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If you wan't to state that DK trees are: ( DPS/Tanking/PvP ) / ( DPS/Tanking/PvP ) / ( DPS/Tanking/PvP )
Thus lets call that each three has 3 purposes, then at least have the curtsey to not claim...

But why have all those tanking classes at all if we just wan't a homogenized way of looking at things? If you could never see the fun prospect of playing a class where your role did not depend on...

Ive glanced at omen as well as using Skada, Skada should (Afaik) also use the build in API, the difference is that Skada is measures TPS over an entire encounter, may be useful in these debates...
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Well now that the patch is here, it might be interesting to revive this threat a bit...
Sadly i can only conclude that the IT change is exactly as bad as i feared it would be.

Technically I have...

If that is aimed at my initial posts, I would very much like you to go over them again and outline exactly where you think there is such kind of problems. (until the point where I Exploded at a...

There is ofc always the well... more common cases.
For a Patchwork style fight... DnD as an opener only, those fights are rare though.

This sums up my usage somewhat.

Marrowgar: I use DnD on...

Could People in General just keep to The original Intention of the Topic...
If you LIKE the IT change... then state WHY you like it... don't stay why you think others should not dislike it with "I...

Thats not that bad... Ive had the following to heal in a random heroic...

Dual wield DK, Frost/Unholy spec'd.

No BB (No Blood talents at all)
No Imp IT
No Nerves of Cold Steel
No Threat of...

They are not "balanced" however.

So he is correct, but the only thing they can balance if they completely remove everything that is called Classes, Talent Trees, Gear and leave us with The same...

20-24k tps... that made me think that your exadurating... highest TPS Ive ever seen on a tank for a short period lies around 16k. regardless of class and situation...
So unless you have a stupid...

HB is 20 yards as well... so makes no different to my initial argument, for slimes currently HB > IT for obvious reasons.



From a small 100 hit sample, and no other than self inflicted buffs,...

I'm guessing your referring to the IT threat buff, and my comment on that.

You disregarded the entire fact that some Frost Death Knights still never uses IT, not even initially on a pull because...

Death Knight

Icy Touch: This ability now causes a very high amount of threat while the death knight is in Frost Presence.

Icy Touch threat bonus in 3.3.3
We wanted Icy Touch to feel a little...

The input is wrong, that makes the result wrong and as such the math for the specific question.
The formulas is not wrong...

Funny that you say "Try to relax some."...

I did "Properly" in...

Unless the person behind the account has changed, then yes i have, but it is in a very old post from the Ulduar days...
and yes i could figure as much >.<...

Your math is wrong... as i also pointed out in that post now, DnD actually ticks for 11 ticks... not 10...
PROPERLY won't make a Threat pr. Rune difference in the final results... but never the...

Ive told you before, and i will do so again... it is 11 ticks... tested and confirmed

Arh of course ... Thanks... see how much i know about warriors... hehe :)

Nor is there much more that one fight in there that favors otherwise... non-challenging amounts of damage pr. hit / damage pr. sec...
Festergut is the only fight where you might be able to argue EH...

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Why Vigilance on the MT?... that doesn't sound like it would help on threat with the Ooze?... or am i missing something in that regard.
Or is it simply to reduce the damage on the MT with...

I have a Question for all the warriors out there...
Or especially those (if any) that have tried to deal with kiting the adds on Rotface.

I'm a Druid healer or DK Frost tank so thats my to...