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Well thanks for the advice all...after listening, I've removed points from Gag order (I'll miss you, trash silence! *sniff*) and Blood craze, and gone into Deep Wounds. I'm now 8/0/33. Having a hard...

First, obligatory armory link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/trollbane/Eisen/simple

Please ignore the gear. I'm in the slow process of upgrading everything with JP, VP, and the new...

Thanks Satrina, for making the best buff management addon ever. Be sad to see development stop, but I understand.

I think what stats a tank gears for makes a difference. I've been following the recommendation of many here and prioritizing mastery, which has given me stupid high amounts of block. Now chuck in...

As near as I can tell the smart thing to do is this:

1) Figure out how much health you need to comfortably soak any major major attacks coming in. Get to that.
2) Build up mititgation/avoidance...

Again, given we know threat decay is going live, anything that keeps us ahead of the slavering pack of DPS is pretty much a necessity. So gotta say Vig needs to stay, which means so does Conc blow.
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The reason you're hearing that double-talk is because of blizzard's double-talk. They griped that there was only 1-2 really optimized specs anyone used, full of boring useless talents, and they...

I still rememeber the last attempt at this during Burning Crusade, when I was getting beat up by Gruul with like 10 stacks of growth on him and still out of rage most of the time. I know I'm being...

Personally I see sweep and clear as more or less mandatory in aoe situations. And despite Blizz's promise we won't have AoE packs like we did in LK, we're still gonna be multi-tanking.



There...

Well the design philosophy was to take away the "passive" talents as much as possible and make those Mastery-based. And one of the three Prot Mastery bonuses is in fact damage reduction.

I have to...

There is no choice. I've been looking at this all morning, and I'm frustrated as all heck. Blood and Thunder is obviously a bone to throw at us to keep us from getting quite as mad about making Deep...

Well honestly...Blizz announced they were getting rid of ammo a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago. As well as the change from mana to focus. Any engi who didn't take that into account when...

Vengeance...dunno why everyone hates that. The way I see it, pretty often through the fight I'm getting a massive attack power increase..with my current gear/build, up to 4500 AP. That's over a 100%...

TG was an awesome idea. what I HATE is instead of balancing it right, they tried for a few patches, gave up, and are now trying to lure fury away from it because they can't get it to work right. It's...

I think the point was Ollin all the other class reveals showed off really cool new abilities. Shammies can cast on the move. Resto gets an awesome aoe. Priests get Lolifegrip. Locks get green...

Some more blue posting weighing in on (mostly) DPS concerns.

Well, fight mechanics in WoTLK were making it so the OT was always taking damage somehow. Cleave effects, offtanking an add, passive aoe in the room...There are few fights where the OT takes little...

Curse you for being faster!

I'm not seeing a lot of cool stuff for prot here...am I the only one that feels most of the new abilities seem DPS focused?

Lolz@ Heroic Leap coming back. Let's hope...

Cleave will of course no longer be an on-next-strike power. Instead, it will eat a minimum of 20 rage, max of 60, and be on the GCD.


I'm not serious of course. But I wouldn't be that shocked...

Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24038611737&sid=1



Just a few brief thoughts by me:

"New" Healing wave: Huh? The only possible issue I could see here is LHW...

What really bugs me though is they made this HUGE deal about wanting to get away from "deep" talent tree spending and create broad multi-tree builds. DKs were built with that in mind, and they...

I know it's been said a thousand times, but let me say it one more.

Wrong.

Yes, you lose 20% of your dodge in ICC. This does not devalue avoidance in any way! An increase of 1% Dodge/Parry...

Let me assure you that would be nice, but I don't read the post that way at all. It seems pretty much a clear-cut carbon copy of execute. It will require at least 10 rage, but will consume all rage...

The ONLY problem with this is new 80s.

I'm Johnny new80. I'm a pro tank who left wow for a while and just came back, and I wanna get back in the gmae.

What's that you say? I'm at the point...

So am I the only one that sees the new HS as a kinda prot Execute? It has a min rage but will eat everythiong up to a max rage value as well?

Using it now is going to be MUCH more selective; I'm...