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Timesinks are not worthwhile effort.

Effort is learning the boss, learning your class, learning your role, learning how your teammates work, and learning how all those things interact to kill the...

The idea that LFG killed hard 5 mans is nonsense.

What killed hard 5 mans is whiny people who aren't willing to wipe a few times to difficult mechanics.

The quality of PUG in TBC wasn't vastly...

Are you saying you're NOT trolling by saying "get rid of 10 man raiding entirely, let's just go back to the TBC model"?

Really? You're SERIOUS?

So...what you're saying is that 10 mans are too hard for you and you want them removed so that you can get carried by people who are good enough to do 10 mans but now can't because there are no 10...

Only if your 10 man raid sucks.

People who say "oh wah we can't kill this boss because we don't have <whatever bullshit excuse>" are not ACTUALLY not able to kill that boss because they don't have...

Harsh words and steel...none of this foofoo magic crap.

Warriors.

Obviously.

Perhaps a classy marmot?

http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/338141.jpg

Wow those guys do 9239489028 dailies EVERY DAY they're AWESOME!

I hear that all the time...true story.

This discussion is something that seems really odd to me.

My understanding of vengeance is that your base AP (aka what you'd be getting from Agi) is really negligible compared to what you'll get...

All this and modesty too.

Pff...thunderstorms? Clouds? What are those?

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/90292:4:US

Sure, but can you tell me why you wiped each of those times? What chain of events caused it?

If not, then you're just wasting your time. If so, you'll get there eventually assuming people are...

English IS my first language, it's just extremely ambiguous wrt "you".

I wasn't trying to imply that it CAN'T be learned or isn't part of the learning or improvement process. I was trying to say...

The problem is there's no end-all-be-all guide.

How do you improve? Learn.

You (meaning all of you...english blows) need to learn the basics of your classes and roles...you need to pay...

Based on what Teng said (I assume his take on the logs was accurate), you all should get a boss mod (DBM or BigWigs) and almost certainly in addition to that you should get GTFO so that when you're...

You get all the extra parry you could want from strength.

And they're both basically worthless anyway.

By default, I believe, it will put together some smaller events...there are settings for all of it.

Since our little interaction was deleted...and you don't know the history between me and the poster you responded to with the post that I quoted...I wasn't talking about YOU...I was talking about...

Today is April Fool's day...nothing is real. The entire internet is pointless. I don't understand why it's still a thing.

Bah, Cata heroics were still easy.

TBC heroics were heroic.

Then again we were all a lot worse at the game back then.

When he was doing his soloing, I was playing around with it myself...I find it perfectly believable that he solo'd what he said he solo'd.

I hadn't bothered to fly out and try to solo MoP 5 man...

There is no soft cap for expertise for a tank. Expertise removes exactly the same amount of chance to be avoided from 0 to the cap.

Try using a browser that ISN'T IE...Chrome is nice...even Firefox is better.

Nobody should use IE.

Ever.

Bloody godless heathen. Speaking of dying in a fire...

Loot's why we killed poor Zul'jin too...he had a legitimate complaint. Good instance, bad story...standard.