I've done over a hundred guild interviews as (one of) the recruiting officer(s) and sat in on my more. I think I've earned my stripes with regards to knowing whether a person will be an asset to the raid as well as being a nice person to be with.Quote:
Intersting responses. I intend to be a part of a a guild just starting up on raiding. Yeah, the one I am in. W have a meeting scheduled tomorrow on how we go about it. yOu guys seem so helpful when I ask for advice (and you really do go out of your way to help) but you also seem close minded regarding recruitment of new raiders.
Of course it is possible to play without a boss mod. It is just much harder to play to your best while remembering timings and positioning. Especially when you are leading the raid and telling everybody else what to do. Even guilds like Method, Paragon and Blood Legion remind their players what is happening. Having more than one raid team is going to be a massive headache. You'll be needing to put at least one officer in the second team for it to not dissolve into bad tempers within a month.Quote:
Someone above said the raids are impossible without the cheats... oops i mean addons. I don't think so. I would wager that you give me 9 dedicated people and we will form a raiding ream that may not be number one, but we will accomplish something far more important. We will have a lot of fun achieving our goals together as a team. I also want there to be more than one team in the guild.
And yet my guild is perfectly healthy. Yes, WoW may have lost some people, but the game is 8 years old! Of course it will lose popularity over time, as the old players find themselves unable to dedicate as much time to the game as it demands.Quote:
We are in a grounbreaking era. WOW has suffered immense losses in subscribers (2 million is nothing to sneeze at regadless of what industry you are talking about.)
Who suggested that? However, there are some players that simply are incapable of raiding because they are not good enough at playing the game, and simply cannot (or will not as is sometimes the case) improve. For the good of the raid (which is your responsibility as raid leader) you sometimes have to let somebody go.Quote:
The new people joining should never get the impression that they will never be raiders, or that raiding is a very serious business. (This is the type of talk I picked up while leveling and learnng the game) Raiding is simply the ultimate goal we ALL strive for.
There is a saying that I adhere by: A lack of gear is easy for the guild to fix. A lack of experience is easy for the guild to fix. A lack of being able to play the class properly is something only the player can fix themselves, be it from posting on a site like TankSpot and reading class guides, watching boss videos and guides or simply pounding away on a target dummy or running LFR until they have completely mastered a fight. Knowing the stat priority, gemming and hit chance are basic common knowledge anybody should be able to figure out themselves.Quote:
I don't want to hear that you HAVE to do this or you HAVE to do that. I ntend on entering the 10 man rading scene with a group where we all have our strong points and weak points. Gear makes a ton of difference. Knowledge on stat priority, gemming and hit chance are just a few things required to learn to help your toon to do a better job.
That depends on whether the person knows you are talking bullshit or not. Yes, it depends on the player but sometimes telling somebody that they need to improve dramatically and that you have opened recruitment for their spot it what they need to realize how badly they were playing.Quote:
If you bark orders to people it tends to rub them the wrong way. If you tell a player they suck it REALLY rubs them the wrong way.
I'm not surprised that barking orders in a dungeon doesn't work. I doubt more than 10% of people in an LFG 5 man even read the chat.
Join the club. You can pick up a membership card by the door.Quote:
I was scard as shit to tank my first raid.
Recount is an addon. Isn't that cheating? Shouldn't you be able to figure it out on your own? <-- may or may not be sarcasmQuote:
But I finally did it an found out it isnt the terror I thought it was. A healer and I run dugeons together and then critique our peformance after with recount as a guide.
If the raid members do not respect you as an authority, they won't listen. If they don't listen to you, you WON'T HAVE A RAID TO LEAD in three weeks' time. This is not "elitism". It is telling you how it is. We've been running raids for years. We've all seen the mistakes that cause a guild to fracture and split. We've all seen raids fall apart. We know how painful that is. We'd rather not see yours fall apart. Not requiring a boss mod of your raiders will make your progress much slower. Figuring out every fight by yourselves will make your progress much slower, or even stop completely as key raid members leave for pastures new. It is an honourable proposition, but in reality it simply does not work.Quote:
I know a lot of you have been here for years and feel you have earned and deserve a higher staus, but this elitism can turn people away.
I can only second this statement. Do not underestimate the amount of work leading a raid is, and exactly how much leadership the raid needs. Both needs will be much greater than you currently estimate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teng