Why are they raiding at all ..
For most people they do not fill every single slot with the highest item level gear in the game. I assume that people would raid for the same reason in pvp i get bummed when i lose a bg. I want to be able to do better in the game and help other people do the same. WoW has made it a game based around gear, it's no longer a game of strategy outside of if if i blow my cds on you and you arent as geared as i am .. youre gonna die... if you go up ugainst a boss and youre not geared or someone else isnt then you are only as strong as your weakest link .. surely you do have to have a fair understanding of how your class works and the game itself .. but being able to be efficient at getting bosses down is not made easier without being geared or other players for that matter. So sure doing it to help someone else get gear is fine .. but the inverse- of saying that you only raid for the fun of it .. or i would play the game even if i never downed a single boss is equally unsound of logic. That would be like saying i like getting stomped in a bg and i dont enjoy spawn camping other teams in their gy or being able to face roll them into the ground. I like things being difficult to the point of absurdity. I assume your toon is geared in 450 item level gear from scenarios and you enjoy your contributions to your raiding group.
Originally Posted by Bovinity
just conceed to the fact that ..
you raid to get gear. this mythical person who does it for some other reason does not exist. its not that you cant raid for the fun of it- someone who isn't interested in it at all is probably not that into raiding - i saw people fully decked out in raid finder gear inside of the first few weeks of the expansion release mixed with drops from the normals or crafted.. if someone tried to raid with you and they still had on sub par gear you would still drop them like a hot potato ..
the point of what is being changed is how will it effect guilds internally because of the changes is pretty much what lore is talking about even though he goes the long way around in explaining it ..
Ive seen people leave guilds based on loot rolls