Issue (2 Guilds In 1 Guild)
We have 2 cores in our guild. Core 1 and Core 2. Core 2 did not raid last weeks due to the raid leader being on vacation. Core 1 needed 1 member to go with them to progress 6/6. A mage from core 2 had already volunteered before we had asked so we took him along. The co raid leader for Core 2 whispered me (the gm) and asked me if it was going to be a regular thing that I took HIS members. That right there set me off but I cooled off and replied with "I am sorry I made the assumption of it being okay with you when the mage volunteered to go with us. Next time i take core 2 members I will ask" He said great thanks.
We end up calling it due to tunnel vision and monk tanking (dont get me started) and so the mage asked me if I needed him the following day. I said we may need him it all depends on how recruitment goes for core 1. He said thats fine to let him know. Well the next day comes and we get ready for raid and we had over recruited 15 players. No core 2 raid leader was on anyways so I said we did not need him. He basically goes off calling core 1 raid leader a liar saying how the core 1 raid leader said that he was going to get to come and how it was bullshit and just kept on. Whispering the core 1 raid leader and just bluntly going off on him. Him and the core 1 raid leader had a few words and then I stepped in and said that I had told him we just didnt have the room and that he was never lied too. The mage told me to drop it that he didnt want to talk about it and said the subject was dropped. I said fine. The next day I come on to more drama him and the raid leader still going at it and then pretty much the mage leaves and basically says fuck this guild I am going to join the top rating guild on this server peace out douches.
Well that was that and I whispered the co raid leader and told them what happened. He laughed and said okay. Tonight comes around the corner and I bring in the co raid leader up to the admin channel and we start out normal conversation with do you need anything for core 2? how is core 2? Core 2 is great I have enough members tonight.
So now its raid time for both cores and I hop in and to my surprise I see the mage that left was in the core 2 channel. WHAT?! I messaged the raid leader and said why is he in there did the co raid leader not tell you what happened? Yeah i heard the story but hes done nothing to core 2. I said when your done with your raid I would like to talk to you. After raid the raid leader comes into the officer channel and was like whats up?
I basically said.. I am disappointed that you did not come to me before inviting him into the group. He bluntly disrespected our guild and the officers and I feel that he should have never been invited and then i calmly explained what happened. Well the raid leader brought in the co raid leader and it went from there. I explained again that I did not want him raiding with them that I felt that the mage should not be rewarded with kills and loot if he disrespected the guild and the officers. The co raid leader responds with "Well hes done nothing to us so we are bringing him." I then reply with "So your going to bring in a player who disrespected your guild after you clearly see I have a problem with it as your gm?" I get a reply back with "No matter how many times you ask the answer is still we are going to bring him" So i reply back with "If your going to bring him into your group thats fine but you wont be in core 2 or in this guild if he comes again." he replied back with "Okay but we're still bringing him"
I am beyond livid and pissed off.. We have expectations and rules for all raid leaders and officers.
Leaving and Rejoining
- While the guild is a relatively relaxed environment and can be forgiving, we are not a revolving door. If you choose to seek greener pastures, find them not so green, and then wish to return, you will only have one second chance granted.
- Please note, upon leaving the guild all DKP, rank, or other loot privileges will be forfeit. When a member leaves and later wishes to return the following will have to have been met:
- Must have been a member in good standing.
- Left responsibly: spoke to the GM or an officer, in advance of departure, preferably in tells or in Ventrilo.
- Must have a good reason for leaving / wishing in return.
- Everyone, regardless of previous rank, within the guild, will submit in application, and if approved to be guilded as an initiate and subject to all initiate rules and requirements.
If you dont adhear to our rules then you will be held accountable. However I do not want to act hastily or make a decision when I am this upset. I feel very disrespected and feel that I have been over throned. What should I do? Am i over reacting or would you feel this way too?