[Fryswithat]

Pallys have a harder time Ot'ing since mana is based on heal war. at least get rage on dmg done.

[Black Cat]

I'm not sure if these have been mentioned before (I did check through, but I might have missed them, sorry if I did), but I would like to mention some alternative weapons and shields to get: the PvP ones.

They are:
Gladiator's Gavel
1.60 Attack Speed
28 Stamina
18 Intellect
199 spell damage
18 resilience (equal to 11 defence *skill* for calculating uncrittable)
(and the Merciless and Vengeful versions, which have +spell hit on them, in addition to more spell damage)
Costs 25200 Honour and 20 EotS marks.

Gladiator's Shield Wall
5197 Armour
134 Block
45 Stamina
29 Resilience (counts as 18 defence skill for calculating uncrittable)
Costs 15000 Honour and 20 EotS marks.

Also, keep in mind that resilience reduces damage from bleed DoTs. I would assume this would apply to the ZA bear boss and Moroes, at the least. The only downside to the items is you have to PvP for them. And we all know what PvP is like for tank specs...

[Caoin]

My account was hacked, and is not recoverable due to some BS about account sharing.

My ex-roommate had his name still on it, and even though he has not played for 3 years, the account was banned.

Therefore, if anyone is looking for me with questions or theorycraft, I am still on Ysera server, leveling a new paladin named Caoni.

[Fryswithat]

Yeah i finally decided 2 Get the PvP shield its better or = to Shield of impenetrable darkness.

[Dragonlgnd]

Excellent guide by the way. My guild is in Hyjal and BT right now ( 4/5 , 3/9) and we always use 2 prot pallies for the trash in Hyjal. I've MT'd many bosses in TK/SSC and in instance before that. I've had a blast with my Prot pallie so far and I don't see it slowing down at all.

I've always wondered , would resilience be better for resistance fights? such as Hydross's adds. It would still knock off the crits, but it would help against any spell attacks VS you too.

[Analasolar]

Hey I've managed to come across most of the Darkmoon Storms and Furies deck. Would those trinkets be good for tanking? Atleast for a starting tank.

[Caoin]

Updated to include 2.4 items and enchants.

[Caoin]

Source: Analasolar Hey I've managed to come across most of the Darkmoon Storms and Furies deck. Would those trinkets be good for tanking? Atleast for a starting tank.

Storms, no. Furies, yes, but only if you are able to stay uncrushable without the use of two tank trinkets.

[Analasolar]

Yeah though not sure which to give the deck to as my dranei is in a raiding guild but not yet 70, but my BE isn't in a raiding guild but is only 11.7% from being uncrushable with holy shield on. If redoubt procs I'm uncrushable if not I take a beating.

[omaga]

First I want to say it takes a certin amount of skill to put to gather a post like this so good on you,

but I do how ever find that a few of the points are a little miss leading...first one I wanted to share is that your ret. tree talents are not viable if your going to get 5% parry y not go for persuit of justice 3% spell avoidevce for 3 talent points. I believe will yield more effective then spell warding with is 4% dmg reduct, at 4% dmg reduct of a 3k hit is 120 dmg not nessaraly that great at any lvl.

With your aura, since any pally tank uses ret. aura, improved ret. is right there behind it with 25% increase to dmg out put and the 2 piece Tier-5 set bouns. I belive is preaty good for the + 15 dmg to ret. aura with imp. ret. its close to 60dmg on hit which is close to dubble its base dmg.

Also if your spell dmg is stacked high enough you can single target pull off a warior whos mt'ing which brings me to the next part saying that a paladin tank is not a "viable off tank", is not completely right, so you might need a mana pot here and there but its easy enough to do as long as your not single minded thinking that u have to get hit to generat threat.

If you look at the numbers u got 8 charges on holy shield with a 10 second cool down, if your single target tanking its rare that u will loose all 8 usuly 4 of the 8 come out to 1-2k threat total.

If you use seal of rightousness then your gimping your self for alot of threat u could have ben gaining from seal of vengence ... might take a few swings to get roling but over time it yealds alot more tps then seal of rightousness.

Also if you can make 102.4 avoidence without libram of repentance then u should try because that leaves the spot open for a dmg increas libram which will also generate more threat then you would gain from 5% block.

also im a am pally that has to made it thro t-5 and working on t-6, i have 550 spell dmg unbuffed with 26% block and 104.38% avoidence with holy shield w/out libram of repentance and it is easyer to off tank and mt with more spell dmg, to those who dont have the kind of stats that i have if u stack spell dmg over block u will notice that your threat generation will increase signifacantly better then stacking block and stm comes later u dont need to stack stm gems and chants unless your over your mark and your happy with where your at.

~omaga