Tanks that only log in for 25mans
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:29 AM
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Tanks that only log in for 25mans

In our guild we have 5-8 geared tanks who can tank well yet will not run heroics/kz/za if their life depended on it and would rather spend time doing other stuff in game (aka circling shatt). And only show up for ssc/tk/gruuls etc

This doesnt help some of our lesser geared dps/heals get BOJ gear and speed our progression up somewhat.

We have put in guild note for tanks to "offer" to run dps/heals 1-2 heroics a day (ie the easy ones sp/mech etc) which take around an hour of their time.

Well this hasnt really changed their veiws.

Any suggestions?
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:39 AM
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tanking trivial content as a warrior burns me out faster than anything else. I wouldn't push tanks to do something they don't want to do or you find that they stop logging in or vanish to a different server. Find an alt or a holy pally/ resto druid that is more than excited to do some heroic/kara/za tanking.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:51 AM
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If it's not a guild event and especially a progression event... let them fly around shat.

your "undergeared" players can Pug. and the tanks won't burn out.

btw imho pugging is great :0
a bad PuG makes you happy your in a decent guild .
and a good one might recruit a good player into your guild.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:55 AM
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Stop doing 10 mans and heroics. Move on and stop recruiting undergeared nubs.

You are in the wrong here imo not your tanks
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:55 AM
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Your "geared tanks who can tank well" most likely got the gear and the experience in the first place by running the heck out all those instances with similarly geared parties. You remember...back when you couldn't just clear Kara twice and get an autoblocker. Heck, back when you probably couldn't clear Kara period, much less as a farming run.

Telling your tanks they need to do extra work to catch up all the new people you invited to fill your raiding ranks while the geared up dps and healers pvp or fly around shat chatting themselves is just a formula for needing to find "lesser geared" tanks to match the "lesser geared" dps/heals in your 25 mans as well.
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:13 AM
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I wonder if the OP asked the same question on say... Healer.com or DPS.org would he get the same replies?
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:10 AM
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I helped a whole 150+ guilds worth of people Onyxia attune then Kara attune. Some of them stayed, some left. It burnt me out. It made me angry - people seemed to think I owed them things just for being a tank. Tanks are not guild resources, they are people who are also trying to have fun.

Tanks can have many hobbies that they enjoy: fishing, cooking, questing, collecting pets, collecting event items, lurking, chatting to friends, guarding the farm, running flags, etc. Some tanks like to respec twice a week and do arena. They also need to do farming (for resist sets, bigger bags, enchants, pots etc), and make at least enough gold for repairs and consumables for the week. If they are tanking 25-mans then they already worked very hard to get their gear.

The less people nag tanks, the more likely they are to offer to help and not go hide on alts or lurk. If they know you, and you have had some good conversations with them, then even more likely. If you helped them with something (trying out ss spec in arena, bodyguard for fishing competition, getting something weird from ZG, etc) without immediately demanding help in return, then even more likely. Sometimes they just won't help - farming 5 more primal life for their nature set before the next 25-man may be what they want to do today.

You are always free to roll a tank for yourself and see what its like. :-)

P.S. If you drag them into a wipefest then at least offer to pay their repair bill, so they don't get zero items AND pay gold to help you.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:48 AM
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Your "geared tanks who can tank well" most likely got the gear and the experience in the first place by running the heck out all those instances with similarly geared parties. You remember...back when you couldn't just clear Kara twice and get an autoblocker. Heck, back when you probably couldn't clear Kara period, much less as a farming run.

Telling your tanks they need to do extra work to catch up all the new people you invited to fill your raiding ranks while the geared up dps and healers pvp or fly around shat chatting themselves is just a formula for needing to find "lesser geared" tanks to match the "lesser geared" dps/heals in your 25 mans as well.
This.

Blame Blizzard's dazzling philosophy of here's an instance, enjoy it for the next 8 months!
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:27 AM
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We have put in guild note for tanks to "offer" to run dps/heals 1-2 heroics a day (ie the easy ones sp/mech etc) which take around an hour of their time.
Honestly one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

Tanks are not property, they are players.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:34 PM
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Honestly one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

Tanks are not property, they are players.
Yeah, what was he thinking, hoping people would help their guildmates? What kind of insanity is that?

Sigh...
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