[Krashtork]

On both my Warrior and Mage alt I have had to primarily gear myself. By this I mean my gear came from MY efforts.

Not only did I PuG 5 mans, heroics, pvp, and drop herbalism for engineering for the trink and helm, I also gathered up a bunch of strangers, lead and PuG'd Karazhan multiple times (before it was the new UBRS).

The point I am getting at is that your undergeared dps and healers ought to get their butts moving and get into those PuGs. I found about 30% of my past guilds raiding core within PuGs.

Also, that same past guild kept bugging me for runs in all the instances i needed no items or rep in, to the point that i would spec pvp, level my bro's alliance toon, and screw around on alts, just to avoid tanking 5 mans i didn't want to.

As what was stated before: Tanks are people, not property.

P.S. We have rage bars for a reason...

[Satrina]

Source: Ringthane Yeah, what was he thinking, hoping people would help their guildmates? What kind of insanity is that?

Imagine you're at the point where you won't even bring an alt to heroics or Karazhan because you're so sick of them over a year later. Now consider how well being told to "offer" your services to help new and undergeared recruits would sit with you.

[geros]

I don't think that tanks mind helping guildies, it's just that there is a level of depth for their charity. i'll go clean up a stream or work in a soup kitchen when I have free time; my level of devotion for helping sea otters and trout isn't at 14 hours a week.

new recruits are far less cute than sea otters.

[Xav]

Source: geros I don't think that tanks mind helping guildies, it's just that there is a level of depth for their charity. i'll go clean up a stream or work in a soup kitchen when I have free time; my level of devotion for helping sea otters and trout isn't at 14 hours a week. new recruits are far less cute than sea otters.

all i got from this post was sea otters

[Kazeyonoma]

O_o

[Muggs]

Wait till the tanks get sick of running Gruul's/Mags even and won't log on unless you are t5 or better /tear.

P.S. The Otter is not crying, the Otter is simply cleaning itself, but it does look damn cute.

[loquatious]

I'm basically at this burn out stage. My tank is fully geared for my instance level, I even have a fair amount of badge dps gear. I have geared up my alts to the point that they could fill in on raids. I hardly log into wow anymore i have 20k gold, craptons of primals & herbs -- there is NOTHING to do.

I'd like to gear up newbies but you see them come, you see them go, raid attendence is the suck and they leave after 2-3 T6 drops.

I'm going with get the alts to tank

[Ciderhelm]

Source: Kazeyonoma O_o

Epic.

[Roana]

Source: Satrina Blame Blizzard's dazzling philosophy of here's an instance, enjoy it for the next 8 months!

In all fairness, this is not really a purely Blizzard thing. It's the fairly MMORPG-typic concept of leveling and (at 70) its logical translation into a serial progression endgame. And they did try to provide parallel instances at T5 and T6 so you wouldn't just be stuck doing the same thing all the time.

I burned out on Karazhan a lot faster than I burned out on heroics, since there was a much bigger variety to be had in the latter.

There's a lot of content out there. 69 levels worth of it go largely unused.

[Sangi]

Yes. I am this way for 5 and the 10 mans now. My gear is above what is needed for the content we are doing. There is no reason for me to be in there except to help out folks. Which I don't mind doing. But not as constantly as it is seemed to be wanted by the guildmates. I also usually end up leading, which after 3 raid nights, 1 ZA run, and usually a Kara I just get tired.

My dream kara is walking in, asking if every one knows the instance then just chain pulling for the next 2-3 hours. No explanations. No details on the pulls. Just go go go. Had it once on a spur of the moment kara and was the best time in there I have ever had.

I think that is the part that gets tanks down. Having the explain the same instance and each of the pulls over and over and over again. I am lucky in that we have two tanks that need badges and are picking up the slack for me and don't have the burn out.