
02-22-2008, 02:16 AM
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Well, if the only purpose of your build is maximizing that one ShieldSlam crit, I'd suggest to take some points out of Improved Defensive Stance and even Focused Rage to get another 10% of Strength.
I know that the Strength->SBV conversion is horrible, but I think completely buffed it could give you about 2  additional SBV. Those 2 multiplied by 1.3 (SM) * 1.1 (OneHandSpec) *2.2 (ImpaleCrit) * 1.2 (Deathwish) will increase your RoflShieldSlamCrit's damage by an amazing 7.5 points. Hardly worth noticing, if those few points weren't enough for the 12 k
*I'm German, hope my English is somehow comprehensible
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03-23-2008, 03:04 AM
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lol... remember running round int my t1 drooling over you back on cenarius >.<
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03-30-2008, 01:56 PM
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Got a pretty big one here, not as much block value as Ciderhelm, just abusing the new WSG system, I've got about 787 block value in the gear I have on there.
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03-30-2008, 02:38 PM
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ohhh rofl, nice. That's as legitimate as anything I've done. I'll post it to the original thread. | 
03-30-2008, 07:33 PM
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Yeah, could have gone bigger, he didn't have recklessness up. >:/
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04-08-2008, 02:28 AM
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Got another one here, decided to make a video to go along with it, had everything going except for the shield slam boots I have here, accidentally had my rocket boots on instead. :/
[youtube]VVPFQNV97sg[/youtube]
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04-08-2008, 02:30 AM
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rofl that is great, am putting it into the first post | 
04-08-2008, 02:40 AM
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I love you, Cider. ;-;
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04-08-2008, 06:21 AM
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Ciderhelm, how much block value did you have to stack to get amazing crits like that?
** nevermind, I did not see that this thread was 13 pages already, I will look through to see if this was already asked and answered :P
Last edited by Domichi; 04-08-2008 at 06:23 AM.
Reason: brainfart
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04-09-2008, 12:14 PM
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Lol what anime is that from? And where do these 2k-4k white hits come from!?
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04-09-2008, 05:14 PM
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It's from the F-Zero series, from the last episode I think, in which Captain Falcon Falcon Punches the bad guy. Second question, it's what happens with that many damage modifiers. :/
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04-12-2008, 07:41 PM
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14k shield slam, on 2nd boss in heroic magister's | 
04-25-2008, 12:22 AM
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15559 done to Vexallus in MGT as well. | 
04-28-2008, 09:06 AM
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How much block value do you have in the gear you used? I'm currently assembling my own gear, while wearing 4T6 and 2T5, I reach 1696 Blockvalue unbuffed with the 2T5 bonus and my trinkets (Autoblocker/Glyph) activated.
I still need the T6 head (never thought it would be useful anywhere) so I can wear a chest with BV instead of T6, the chest with BV ^^, the neck from steamvault and the ZA timed run ring. Aside from that the last opinion to increase my bv with items is a Presence of Might on my T6 legs, but that has to wait till I get the tanking legs from Brutallus.
So without gemming for strength I should be able to reach > 1800 BV, about 1830 if I get all the stuff I want.
How many debuffs did you have on Vexallus, and did you get those Crits with your regular talents or with Deathwish/Impale skilled?
Last edited by Bhalor; 04-29-2008 at 08:59 AM.
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05-05-2008, 09:06 AM
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Sounds pretty much like you have all the BV Gear I would ever want. I'm not in all that great of BV gear. I have no T6, I use the t5 shoulders/gloves, and I've never been able to get the glyph.
Vexallus is just a very easy target to get a lot of damage on. Assuming you have an amazing group, I'm sure you could do a massive amount more by doing it on heroic and getting twice the add debuffs. I did it with 5 debuffs along with death wish and impale. I happened to have a BM hunter and a MS warrior in the group so that was 7% more dmg as well assuming they were up, which im not certain of.
All in all, my BV with my autoblocker/t5 2pc is regrettably only up to about 1400. I'm sure you can blow it out of the water.
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05-09-2008, 12:00 AM
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(copied post, original is mine)
Helm
45 = [item]Faceplate of the Impenetrable[/item] (has meta)
51 = [item]Battleworn Tuskguard[/item] (has no meta) Shoulders
68 = [item]Pauldrons of Perseverance[/item]
Chest
45 = [item]Warbringer Chestguard[/item] (T4)
Gloves
44 = [item]Destroyer Handguards[/item] (T5) Legs
59 = [item]Unwavering Legguards[/item] Wrists
33 = [item]Vambraces of Courage[/item]
Belt
56 = [item]Onslaught Waistguard[/item] (T6)
Boots
47 = [item]Jungle Stompers[/item] (with +5 socket bonus)
Neck
29 = [item]Steam-Hinge Chain of Valor[/item]
Cloak
38 = [item]Farstrider Defender's Cloak[/item]
Rings
44 = [item]Band of Eternity[/item]
44 = [item]Band of the Eternal Defender[/item]
Trinkets
259 = [item]Gnomeregan Auto-Blocker 600[/item] (on use, else 59)
258 = [item]Glyph of Deflection[/item] (on use, else 23)
Weapon
None, go with high STR (not common for 1H)
Shield
225 = [item]Sword Breaker's Bulwark[/item]
18 = Enchant Ranged None, go with high STR (not common)
Total, with the meta bonus
1443 SBV (966 without trinket use)
1463 / 986 with 400 STR
1902 / 1282 with Shield Mastery (x1.3)
For your SS output, but no longer your blocks...
2342 / 1722 (+440 max SS base dmg)
4684 / 3443 with a crit (x2)
5621 / 4132 with Impale (x1.2)
6183 / 4545 with 1Hspec (x1.1)
7420 / 5454 with Deathwish (x1.2)
So you peak out dishing around 7k before armor. Now let's play with some multipliers, eh?
Using a naked warrior friend in WSG...
x2 WSG flag debuff
x1.3 Self WSG buff
x1.1 Target WSG buff
x1.1 Target Berserker Stance
x1.2 Target Recklessness
x1.05 Target Deathwish
x1.09 Kidney Punch (improved)
x1.04 Blood Frenzy
x1.03 Ferocious Inspiration
(there's probably more)
= 462.8% multiplier
No enrage included (Impale+Deathwish) and the multipliers from the 4-set bonuses of T4 (x1.1) and T6 (x1.1) not included. T5 has a +100 SBV from a 2-set bonus. If you want to try calculating the worth of those options, here's the SBV of the set parts:
TX = Hlm-Shdr-Chst-Glv-Legs
T4 = 39 - 00 -- 45 - 00 - 00
T5 = 00 - 32 -- 00 - 44 - 33
T6 = 35 - 00 -- 00 - 00 - 42 (belt has 56)
Anyway, running the 7420 raw source through the multiplier says you could get a maximum of 34,342
You can probably go more by using more than 400 STR, or remembering other debuff multipliers that I didn't consider. I think BM's FR stacks? +dmg taken/dealt stuff might be hard to place along the way, I think a hemo would be +167 dmg. Also, there might be a higher theoretical multiplier off the second MgT boss, Velastrus (sp?) | 
05-14-2008, 12:36 AM
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After some time off from the whole shooting for records thing, which may resume soon, I filmed/editted a PvP video. Enjoy? | 
05-14-2008, 02:21 AM
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Deathtank and Taith, consider making those same posts in more-read forums (Gear Listings and PVP, respectively). Taith I can embed that movie once you post it if you PM me the link for when I wake up.
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05-14-2008, 04:05 AM
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@Deathtank
You can not have Band of Eternity and Band of the Eternal Defender at the same time, or is there any trick I'm missing? In general, I'm aiming for the following setup, although I doubt I'll visit Magtheridon again for the T4 chest: Head
50: [item]Onslaught Greathelm[/item] + Presence of Might (+ new Meta) Neck
29: [item]Steam-Hinge Chain of Valor[/item] Shoulders
32: [item]Destroyer Shoulderguards[/item] Back
38: [item]Farstrider Defender's Cloak[/item] Chest
45: [item]Warbringer Chestguard[/item] Wrists
0: [item]Onslaught Wristguards[/item] (needed for 4T6) Gloves
44: [item]Destroyer Handguards[/item] Waist
56: [item]Onslaught Waistguard[/item] Legs
57: [item]Onslaught Legguards[/item] + Presence of Might Boots
47: [item]Jungle Stompers[/item] Rings
44: [item]Band of the Eternal Defender[/item]
42: [item]Signet of the Last Defender[/item] Trinkets
259: [item]Gnomeregan Auto-Blocker 600[/item]
258: [item]Glyph of Deflection[/item] Shield
243: [item]Sword Breaker's Bulwark[/item] + Tough Shield
Total:
1244 SBV
1344 with 2T5 bonus active
1364 with 400 STR
1773 with Shield Mastery
1950 with Meta Bonus
SS Output:
2390 (440 max base damage)
4780 Crit
5258 Impale (the modifier is 1.1 instead of 1.2 as you used, as only the damage BONUS is increased by 20%, not the whole damage)
5784 1h Spec (x 1.1)
6941 Deathwish (x 1.2)
7635 4T6 (x1.1)
This would bring you to 35334 with the debuffs you mentioned. Using 2T4 instead of 4T6, the badge legs and Attumen wrists would push that up to ~36585.
As stated above, some things in your calculation are wrong, while there's only a loss of 2 in the SBV of the rings, your wrong Impale modifier will bring your numbers down to 6800 pre-debuffs and to ~31.5k afterwards
Last edited by Bhalor; 05-14-2008 at 04:39 AM.
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