[Stubbi]

Source: salihe Homoginization is good for milk, and that's about it, imho.

Agreed ... all this is promoting is people figuring out the new min/max perfect build/class. If we are all going to be roughly equal in abilities, the 1 that has the best combination will rise to the top and that will be the death of the other 3.

This fits in with the tanking shortage thread ... we are about to see the end of tanking for 3/4 of the tanks out there once they find out they are not the *right* class.

It is not so much a matter of the tank giving up, it is the perception of the healers and dps that will drive our death. I have lost count how many MgT runs I didn't go on because they were looking for a Paladin instead. Perception counts, reality is meaningless.

At least with the Recruit a Friend program, we'll all be able to level up our new tanks in record time. I sure hope that program is kept in place when WoWLK rolls out the door.

[Manduil]

grr...I still dont see why they changed the defense skill talent to 5% dodge...or the gear sharing bit either, I mean hell im a warrior not a dk in disguise...

and on the talent note(might be posted somewhere else, if it is please let me know )

anyword on how the loss of defiance affects our tanking?? that extra threat bonus n expertise was jus plain awesome.

[Sanelora]

Source: Manduil grr...I still dont see why they changed the defense skill talent to 5% dodge...or the gear sharing bit either, I mean hell im a warrior not a dk in disguise... and on the talent note(might be posted somewhere else, if it is please let me know ) anyword on how the loss of defiance affects our tanking?? that extra threat bonus n expertise was jus plain awesome.

the extra threat is now automatically built into Def stance and the expertise was talked about somewhere here (i dont know lol)

[Tenraiel]

Source: Worldie Gear sharing. DK don't use block rating, and with crushing removal, prot paladins don't need it anymore either.

I foresee shields themselves becoming our main source of block rating.

[Manduil]

thx, Sanelora

[Foolishness]

look on the bright side, gear sharing will mean blizzard will only need to create only one graphic!

How convinient.

Then again, whats the big deal when you can just recolor existing skins.

[Minaba]

Source: Tenraiel I foresee shields themselves becoming our main source of block rating.

Items with Block Rating on them do exist but probably at levels closer to 80... they can't totally ignore a stat altogether or why have it, even if it only benifits shield wearers?
I've seen a couple of plate items with Block Rating listed on MMO Champ
I can't imagine beta contains all the items planned for LK so far anyway.
Then there's each tank classes own tier gear... they can tailor that precisely and I would expect warriors will include Block Rating
It's now a very valuable mitigation stat for warriors with the old shield block and crushes gone.
Pallys don't really need much BR thanks to HS

[Worldie]

I instead think of the opposite.

They'll not give block rating to warriors, simply because else they'll just be so much overpowered on mitigation that every guild will just go saying again "Warriors are the best tanks" for the whole expansion.

[Minaba]

Source: Worldie I instead think of the opposite. They'll not give block rating to warriors, simply because else they'll just be so much overpowered on mitigation that every guild will just go saying again "Warriors are the best tanks" for the whole expansion.

I doubt you will get your wish here because as I said, having it as a stat at all is plain dumb if it can't be improved on and considering we carry shields to block damage!
T5 gave something like 33-35% BR and in T6 I'm back to around 26% or so and I've never complained because when we don't need to use Shield Block on a non crush fight it becomes more valuable for passive mitigation, as you said Worldie
In LK, Critical Block will improve its value even further
I've posted about BR several times recently and about its new worth in LK and I hope we do see it included on plate gear, especially our Tier sets
If anything, its a way we can compete with paladin 24/7 blocking and the constant mitigation you gained from that... in fact I'd go as far as suggesting it will be neccessary for warriors to have BR or else HS will be overpowered

[Worldie]

Tiers had block rating because they had no idea of how to make itemistic working. It's not a case if Sunwell T6 has no block rating on it for warriors.

I don't expect any block rating on warrior tiers, but i expect block rating on paladin tier. Because paladins need the block to overcome the 4% damage difference.

If a warrior could constantly block for 3k+ damage then you make your math.

[bmd]

Source: Manduil grr...I still dont see why they changed the defense skill talent to 5% dodge...or the gear sharing bit either, I mean hell im a warrior not a dk in disguise... and on the talent note(might be posted somewhere else, if it is please let me know ) anyword on how the loss of defiance affects our tanking?? that extra threat bonus n expertise was jus plain awesome.

Now I may be wrong on this...

20 DEF ~ 3.2% avoidance where as the new Anticipation skill is %5 dodge (5% avoidance unless it's multiplicative ???); The new version of anticipation seems to be better for overall avoidance.

ps, first post.