[Lore]

They already announced what they're doing to bring JC'ing in line, which is to remove the prismatic aspect of the Dragon's Eye gems.

[Esch]

Source: Lore They already announced what they're doing to bring JC'ing in line, which is to remove the prismatic aspect of the Dragon's Eye gems.

That is a change, but not necessarily the only step in establishing a new baseline. Blizzard has stated they're matching up professions, which exceeds the scope of the prismatic change considerably.

As you said, no numbers have been released. When PTR hits, we can theorycraft and see if any professions are clearly superiour to the rest.

[Orz]

I'm really interested in seeing the buffs to shoulder Inscriptions and how Lifeblood scales with health.

I had dropped Blacksmithing the first day of WotLK because I didn't realize how nice the exra gems slots would be and I, as many others did, assumed having Inscriptions would either give you access to an additional glyph or perhaps some unique ones at max level. Unfortunately that never happened.

I've been trying to save up in order to drop both I & H and pick up Mining and Jewelcrafting. I hadn't done it yet since my Hunter is JC/M and felt it would be boring doing the same professions on both toons. I considered dropping only inscriptions or even possibly herbalism and just picking up JC and not mining.

I suppose I'll hold off a while longer and see how this plays out. I'm still not inclined to believe that inscriptions will be pulled to be in-line with some of the other professions, but maybe it'll be close enough to not want to drop anything.

Lifeblood isn't the greatest, but I do believe it has saved me at least a few times, and is a great farming tool for doing old content. And since Herbalism is a fantastic and easy money maker that's about as simple as you can get, I actually might have a harder time dropping it if it scales with health ... being a 30k+ unbuffed hp tank and all.

All in all though, regardless of class and spec, I don't think I've seen or felt any real reason to do inscriptions. I think it needs more of a buff than just shoulder enchants. I can't believe the highest level epic book you can make is level 77 and that you only have access to the same exact inscriptions every other person in the game has. That seems to be a real problem and a design flaw to me.

Hmmm, we'll see.

[Lizana]

The buff you get with your shoulder enchants is exactly the same increase in ilvl points that all other professions get at the moment. And your post almost points out why its a great reason to read the info before you do something. It was known months before Lich shipped that there was no special glyphs or extra glyph sockets.

[Kraul]

I can't wait to see what Buff they give to the Hand mounted Pyro rocket. That's the one thing I have equipped that I really shouldn't as my guilds MT. I just like pulling with it too much to give it up! +Stam would be too good to bet true!!!

[Lore]

Source: Esch That is a change, but not necessarily the only step in establishing a new baseline. Blizzard has stated they're matching up professions, which exceeds the scope of the prismatic change considerably. As you said, no numbers have been released. When PTR hits, we can theorycraft and see if any professions are clearly superiour to the rest.

Actually, with the prismatic change, Jewelcrafting is more or less (ie: within 2 or 3 stat points) exactly the same as the other professions.

Unless you're counting the trinkets, but those get replaced almost before they're crafted for non-tanks, and even tanks find replacements for them.

[Jivatma]

I'm not much on griping, but jesus h-christ.....epic gems from Titanium Ore. First this will be the first "uncommon" ore that will be prospectable (unless khorium ore was prospectable? didn't play much end game in BC). and this makes my 5 stacks of titanium (waiting to be smelted to titansteel) quite a waste of time and effort. =( I iz a grumpy sad panda now...

[Aither]

Miners start stocking up on Titanium Ore. I have a feeling it's price is going to hit a spike in the AH soon. Heh

[dagimp007]

i am glad to hear about all these changes... actuall sounds very good

[Diffy]

Source: Edge Blacksmithing gets buffed just as much, you can place 2 epic gems more than anyone else.

Yes but at a big cost. We have to actually buy these epic gems. Our buff is dependent upon JC's buff. This means that if we want to receive the same benefit that say Alchemist get, we have to buy these epic gems at ridiculous prices from Jewelcrafters. Whereas all alchemists get their mixology buff for free.

[Grombrindal]

Hmm, I doubt it will be that expensive. As a JC if you have the raw gem I would gladly cut it for a nominal fee (generally just tip). Of course if I'm providing the raw gem as well expect to pay a premium but that's no different than the JC getting the raw gem for themselves.

Grom

[Akeber]

Raw epic gems will be available from prospecting Titanium Ore and alchemy transmutations, and will also be buyable with both honor and Emblems of Heroism.

With four possible sources, Epic gems should be easy for everyone to get. I'm sitting on over 200 emblems of heroism right now, with nothing to spend them on. With this news, I'm going to start running the daily heroics again to stockpile more. Any predictions on how many emblems for an epic gem? I'm guessing 15-20.

[Blue]

Source: veneretio It's nice to see that they'll be purchasable by Emblems of Heroism. It'll give myself and many others that have avoided 5 mans a reason to actually do them again. I feel like a compelling reason to do 5 mans is something that's been missing direly this expansion so this is very welcomed news.

I do hope this is true, as Heroics have been pretty "dry", since Ulduar came out..maybe I'll actually have something for my main to do, other than farm gold for my alts, or play at being a Fury spec...! And, shudder--maybe I'll get to finish Naxx before WoW 10-tier!

Ok, so I'm a bit slow in the learning curve, so sue me...

It's all good...

;>)

[Lanore]

Source: Diffy Yes but at a big cost. We have to actually buy these epic gems. Our buff is dependent upon JC's buff. This means that if we want to receive the same benefit that say Alchemist get, we have to buy these epic gems at ridiculous prices from Jewelcrafters. Whereas all alchemists get their mixology buff for free.

Seriously?

I have a Alch and a BS. My alchemist gets zero buff unless I have a flask active while my BS has his extra gem slots 100% of the time. Flasks cost about 15g every 2 hours (if i wanted to keep the profession buff active all the time like a BS would have). So your really comparing a one time cost versus paying by the hour.

Oh, i know, you are probably running flasks as well, but when you are working trash and decide not to put on your flask until you get to the boss, you don't lose your profession bonus in the process.

BS buff is plenty good enough here. Just buy the gems and slot them.

[Orz]

Source: Lizana The buff you get with your shoulder enchants is exactly the same increase in ilvl points that all other professions get at the moment. And your post almost points out why its a great reason to read the info before you do something. It was known months before Lich shipped that there was no special glyphs or extra glyph sockets.

Well, having been in the Beta, Inscriptions wasn't finished that ever saw. The trainers only taught up to skill 375, and the devs never answered any questions as to what would be available for later glyphs and neither confirmed nor denied extra glyphs specifically for Inscriptionists. If you knew months before WotLK came out, then I guess you had some insider info that all the others asking the questions about Inscriptions didn't have.

I was capped and could go no further in Inscriptions in the Beta. If your point is that at skill level 375 there were no extra glyph slots or special glyphs, again, nobody knew the full extent of what was available from 376-450 until some time after WotLK went live.

Regardless, even if nothing was planned during the Beta, that does not mean that it couldn't be added later in order to bring it into balance, so I think the point is kind of moot.

But thanks for the ilevel info.

However, I wonder where you got that info from? There's nothing in the upcoming PTR notes about ilevels and nothing on blizz tracker about what the buffs are, exactly, except for this response (posted 2 days and 30 minutes ago):

Nice. Looking forward to getting some specifics on these buffs.

The numbers should be available whenever the PTR is released. We didn't want to provide them here as we are still changing them and they will likely undergo a few more changes during the testing phase but we felt it was important to let everyone know what the plan was for them.

Anyhow, obviously I'm a bit grumpy. I'm still interested in seeing actual numbers. Even if it's "i-level" or not, that doesn't mean much except for what the budget is for stats, not what the actual numbers for each stat will be.

[Martie]

Source: Esch My view is Blizzard has been trying to bring JC back into line with other professions, as it has been 'the best' profession until changes in 3.2 were started being announced.

Either that, or maybe some of the epic gems will be good prismatic ones everyone can use - if everyone can get all the socket bonuses easily, then the playing field gets levelled nicely too.

[Lizana]

Source: Orz Well, having been in the Beta, Inscriptions wasn't finished that ever saw. The trainers only taught up to skill 375, and the devs never answered any questions as to what would be available for later glyphs and neither confirmed nor denied extra glyphs specifically for Inscriptionists. If you knew months before WotLK came out, then I guess you had some insider info that all the others asking the questions about Inscriptions didn't have.

I wasnt aware that looking at wowhead made me get insider only information.

Northrend Inscription Research - Spell - World of Warcraft
Master's Inscription of the Axe - Spell - World of Warcraft
Master's Inscription of the Storm - Spell - World of Warcraft

Look at any one of those links and you will see the first comments on them were made back during 2.4.3. Long before Lich King ever came out. Its not like it was a big secret that descriptors got shoulder enchants. I found out thats all that we were getting and stopped leveling my inscription at that point.

And there were even posts made during 3.0.3, talking about it as well, both before Lich king ever shipped. The recipes were known to exist well ahead of time. Now they may not have been in the beta, but the beta is just that a beta.

[Xenix]

As of the current PTR, the Mixology bonus to Flask of Stoneblood is now 650 health (for a total of 1950 bonus health when flasked). Needless to say, for tanks, this isn't quite as good as the +60 stam that other professions would give you once you take into account blessing of kings and stam increasing talents, but it is much closer than it used to be. Furthermore, for tanks who are alchemists, this is a flat +300 health bonus compared to what you have now, which is more than any other profession will be getting boosted in 3.2(all other professions that provide stam will get 10-12 stam boost for 120-150 increase in health). So, while it still won't give you as much health overall as say Mining, it's definitely a welcome and noticeable difference.

[Valinart]

This will surely cause some annoying mining traffic patterns in Icecrown. If you think about all the different ways titanium ore benefits high-end game tradeskills (mining, blacksmithing, jewelcrafting, engineering, etc.) and then think about the new opportunity gold farmers have to make cash, then think about toughness from mining getting increased...

Just remember basic WoW economics. How often do people log on once a day to one of their and make a titansteel bar, from the 6 titanium ore they either mined themselves or purchased on the AH? The latest and greatest blacksmithing patterns require a lot of these bars, not to mention the basic titanium bars having their use in all kinds of professions.

Before I get on a soap-box, here's a tip. As soon as your servers are up, log-in and head to the Auction House. See if there are any pre-3.2 auctions up for titanium ore, and purchase them. It will be the last time you see a price that low. Don't do this on Moon Guard, as I'll have already done it.

For those of you who reacted to this patch note early and saved up your titanium ore, kudos to you, you will see some serious returns on your investement.

Good luck mining in icecrown/shalozar everyone. Lets hope if it gets too rediculous Blizz finds a new place for titanium nodes to spawn.

-Valinart
(80 Protection Warrior, Shoot Ready Aim, Moon Guard Server)

[Kurtosis]

Source: Valinart For those of you who reacted to this patch note early and saved up your titanium ore, kudos to you, you will see some serious returns on your investement.

I'd been doing that since I first read the patch 3.2 notes some months ago, however it only took my realm about two weeks to catch on, before all titanium ore doubled in price.

I do wonder if it is going to increase again for the beginning of patch 3.2. There are so many other ways to get epic gems besides prospecting titanium, combined with the fact that people who have been hording titanium will probably flood the market with it now.

Also, at least Engineering got a ton of new stuff to make that requires titanium, but it appears BS got nothing (unless there are some unannounced recipe drops in the new instances).

Oh well, will see in a few hours and start posting titanium at high prices to see if it sells.