[Lucent]

Source: Onion It only became a hijack after you bit hard and deep into it. I thank you for your cooperation in this heist.

ahh.. I must of been thrown off by the juvenile "L2read" reply. A phrase commonly used for those who intend to flame but lack the ability or desire to form complete sentences. Which the abbreviation "imo" supports that logic.

Either way.... my mistake for jumping to conclusions.

[Aurila]

ahh.. I must of been thrown off by the juvenile "L2read" reply. A phrase commonly used for those who intend to flame but lack the ability or desire to form complete sentences.

Or it could mean you just failed to read something before opening your mouth

Which the abbreviation "imo" supports that logic.

By the same logic your use of "btw" says what exactly?

OH THE IRONY!

[Slia]

and "mats"

[Ciderhelm]

man are you all from the same past server or something?

the HATE! I'm apalled! and afraid.

[arcadiandisk]

Perhaps you guys should purchase this to go along with your vaginas:

http://www.americaninventorspot.com/security_system

[Jogre]

Hey Cider!

Big fan of all of your threads on the WoW forums, just linked my way here off of there. I apologize in advance, I have a couple off topic warrior questions for you. I know I could post on the warrior forums...but then it becomes a chore to sift through what is actually true!

1. Is SS threat calculated as (damage + threat)*modifiers?

Such as SS for 400 damage would equal (400 +307)*1.45 = 1025.15 threat?

2. Wondering if devestate works the same way.

I know I know, they may be noob questions, and I'm assuming they work this way. I just have not ever seen verification, never hurts to make sure!

Appreciate it if you have the time to answer. I'll come back with SS crits to make up for being off topic!

Thanks,

Jogre
Windrunner

[Ciderhelm]

Source: Jogre Hey Cider! Big fan of all of your threads on the WoW forums, just linked my way here off of there. I apologize in advance, I have a couple off topic warrior questions for you. I know I could post on the warrior forums...but then it becomes a chore to sift through what is actually true! 1. Is SS threat calculated as (damage + threat)*modifiers? Such as SS for 400 damage would equal (400 +307)*1.45 = 1025.15 threat? 2. Wondering if devestate works the same way. I know I know, they may be noob questions, and I'm assuming they work this way. I just have not ever seen verification, never hurts to make sure! Appreciate it if you have the time to answer. I'll come back with SS crits to make up for being off topic! Thanks, Jogre Windrunner

Yes to both. Damage is added directly for both abilities, and both damage and threat receive the 30% and 15% multipliers.

[Aurila]

man are you all from the same past server or something? the HATE! I'm apalled! and afraid.

I am fueled by pure rage as is Fevor, and Yoox.

[smell]

Source: arcadiandisk Perhaps you guys should purchase this to go along with your vaginas: http://www.americaninventorspot.com/security_system

LOL comedy Daniel...simple as that.

[Lucent]

I guess i could continue to flame, but to what end?

Lets keep this constructive

[Lucent]

on a side note: my apologies to Ciderhelm for semi-hijacking this thread.

[Lucent]

Source: Aurila I am fueled by pure rage as is Fevor, and Yoox.

should of played a warrior! lol

[Ciderhelm]

This thread is already contorted enough.

[Jogre]

Well I'm glad to see you're ok with the contortion, because I'm back for another off topic question!

First, thank you for answering my previous questions. And the new question is, is there truly a 75% mitigation cap from armor?

And if so, is that also affected by the 10% damage reduction from D stance?

The reason I ask, is that raid buffed, I hit about 60% damage reduction from armor. Throw in that extra 10% and that puts me at 70% reduction. Am I really only 5% from the cap?


PS: Auto-Blocker is getting BUFFED next patch! 59 block value.

[Ciderhelm]

Those reductions occur at different times (the Defensive Stance and Armor).

Defensive Stance reduction is handled before everything else, a straight 10% off the incoming damage. Armor is calculated after it. More importantly, Shield Block is calculated after it (and Armor) so you always get the full effect from a block and blocks become pretty overpowered in some places.

There IS a hard cap of 75% mitigation from Armor. It will be a very, very long time before anyone reaches it. The only times I reached it were a handful of times in Naxxramas with every possible buff (Loatheb, for instance) and Lay On Hands, etc. procs. That kind of mitigation makes you essentially unkillable., because you then factor in your avoidance/block/defensive stance/etc., and suddenly mobs that would destroy most people can barely scratch you if you have good healers.


The Auto Blocker... a total of 59 additional block value? or the On Equip bonus was raised to meet that? Either way, very good!

[Jogre]

Ahhh ok, gives me some things to think about. Looks like with my AC the defensive stance adds an additional 4% mitigation. Putting me around 64%. I still have a lonnnng ways to go. Thanks again Cider.

And god I wish an addition 59 BV on the trinker, but sadly, they are just raising it to 59 BV total. Along with loads of other buffs to lvl 70 epic gear.

[Akilleuz]

hmm... Well it's still something :-) Every single value gives something in the end.

Btw Cider. Honestly, do you think you will keep being able to use Autoblock and the Glyph at the same time to make them stack? I mean it's quite alot of block you stack there. All casters got nerfed on this princip long time ago, when they had the imba use trinket from MC and the one from Hakkar in ZG.

Just curious :-)

Also the new movie is soon done mate. But I will link it here as promised :-)

[Ciderhelm]

Source: Akilleuz hmm... Well it's still something :-) Every single value gives something in the end. Btw Cider. Honestly, do you think you will keep being able to use Autoblock and the Glyph at the same time to make them stack? I mean it's quite alot of block you stack there. All casters got nerfed on this princip long time ago, when they had the imba use trinket from MC and the one from Hakkar in ZG. Just curious :-) Also the new movie is soon done mate. But I will link it here as promised :-)

I think Blizzard tends to nerf things that are popular and tends to leave other things alone. Since not alot of people take Prot too seriously in PVP, Blizzard doesn't need to go nerfing Prot.

I was very, very surprised that they stacked, though. I bought the Azure Shield of Coldarra with my badges before the Auto Blocker... I was kind of hoping someone else would get the Auto Blocker before me and test if they stacked. Alas, no, I am pretty sure I was the first person to actually take the risk.

But defensive trinkets are supposed to be stackable. They may be nerfed, I wouldn't be surprised, but there was at least logical reasoning.

[Oakfire]

Source: Ciderhelm I think Blizzard tends to nerf things that are popular and tends to leave other things alone. Since not alot of people take Prot too seriously in PVP, Blizzard doesn't need to go nerfing Prot. I was very, very surprised that they stacked, though. I bought the Azure Shield of Coldarra with my badges before the Auto Blocker... I was kind of hoping someone else would get the Auto Blocker before me and test if they stacked. Alas, no, I am pretty sure I was the first person to actually take the risk. But defensive trinkets are supposed to be stackable. They may be nerfed, I wouldn't be surprised, but there was at least logical reasoning.

im telling blizzard on you

[arcadiandisk]

Source: smell LOL comedy Daniel...simple as that.

Thank you sir, I try.