[Shadamehr]

Source: jettzypher yes, i understand that, but its not my point. when it comes to grouping with people you dont know, if you dont make it very clear early enough that youre lookin for a specific piece of gear, then most people will roll if they see something that looks shiny. thats why i also asked "or were they just being asses?".

Reminds me of this one time, back from when Magister's Terrace was new;

ME: Do you mind if I roll on the Shard of Contempt?
ROGUE: No problem.
HUNTER: I'm after that as well.
ROGUE: LOL
ME: Expertise is melee only, you can't dodge or parry arrows.
HUNTER: It has AP.
ROGUE: ...
ME: In that case I hope the Commendation drops then
HUNTER: I want that for PvP

You have left the group

...I wish I was making this up.

[kemikalkadet]

Source: Natorum Heroic Violet Hold with a pug. This from the Death Knight. "Do you have a Rend Armor button? It's the best way to get aggro." And there was me wasting all my time reading the posts about shield slam and revenge.

Haha, i've noticed there's quite a few DK's that try to give warrior advice.. really really bad warrior advice. Not tanking or instance related, but i got this gem of advice from a deathknight: "If you want to do PvP you should spec fury and dual weild two fast weapons to do more fast damage". I thought he was joking and told him my main abilities work on weapon damage and two-handers are far superior for burst and he then told me that i'd get better burst from two fast weapons.

[Kennris]

It's not my story, but it's too horrible not to share...

A guilded DK was tanking a PuG through H:UP with the hope of getting the Red Sword. He didn't have a single problem with the group the whole way through; he said that they were all totally able players and had no problems downing everything.

Ymiron dropped both the Red Sword of Courage - Item - World of Warcraft and the Meteorite Whetstone - Item - World of Warcraft. So my DK guildmate rolled need on the sword, greed on the trinket. The rogue in the group then rolls need on the sword and says to the party, "I want that for RP reasons." He won it. At the same time, the Boomkin rolled greed on the trinket for off-spec. While certainly more understandable than the rogue's "RP reasons," it was still harsh for my buddy to lose the trinket, too.

It's now a running joke in our guild to say we're going to roll "for RP reasons."

[hichris]

It makes me sad... I've had so many rogues try to tell me how to tank... I think rogues just don't know how to DPS. I play my rogue just fine, never have much on agro issues (Hey... I target my tank, then assist him?) When I do have agro issues... Its usually my fault for being all heroic, and trying to be superman, or... my ego getting in the way of playing smart (hey... out DPSing people is important!)

I just enjoy people who understand the game much more. People who know that Tunderclap isn't instant cast, people who know taunt is a button I don't like having to use. I also like people who understand, avoidance is like crits. Sometimes you dodge, sometimes you parry, but sometimes you just get hit.

[Jimbo]

ive been tanking since the end of vanilla and healing before that so i have seen basically every moronic action and statement imaginable.

from rogues who think their dps is better if they hit from the front, retri pallys rolling on spirit gear to mages yelling at me for breaking sheeps when they don't sheep the right target but infact sheep the first kill target.
I've had people saying I'm going to slow and then cried that I'm going to fast, warlocks leaving groups cos i didn't leave enough time for their mana breaks

every question under the sun about my gear and redundant critisisms like "any defense past the cap makes you worse" "why the hell do you have a shield block trinket?" "why don't you gem for strength, can't you play a warrior or something?"(early tbc)

All too often I'm 1st or 2nd on the dmg in Pugs doing only around 1.2-1.6k dps (depending on heroic) and being told that I must have rigged the meter as they have higher dps than me but half the dmg

Oh how i love pugs

[Starvationofmind]

In a 10 man Vault PUG....

Me: I guess I'll MT it (after seeing I had better gear than the other tank)
Raid Leader: No, the war will MT, druids are OTs
Me: .... oooookay.... probly easier to heal if I MT it
Raid Leader: Hes got more health than you, noob (the war had 100 more hp than i did in caster form)
Me: .... riiiiight, do you know anything about druids? See that blue bar under my name? that means I'm missing an extra couple thousand hp, not to mention my 14k higher armor and higher avoidance.
Raid Leader: Stop your QQ and just do what I tell you
Me: /facepalm
/leave

[Arvandor]

A guilded DK was tanking a PuG through H:UP with the hope of getting the Red Sword.

I still can't get past the fact that DW tanking for Dks is a far inferior option. If we didn't have an enchanter in the group to shard the red sword, and no warrior/paladin who would want it for off-spec (assuming I went as tank and not dps), then I'd have let the rogue roll on it for "RP reasons." Lame as that reason may be.

Tell your guildie to stop being lazy on his defense and get a real Dk tanking weapon =P

[Surmaaja]

I was doing heroic nexus shortly after I hit 80 and there was this arms warrior in the group who was doing bladestorm when I'v just pulled several mobs and got first tc in. I told him to stop doing that and he replied with "No I dont need to stop doing it, you can just taunt them off from me!"
Oh well I Didn't.
Topping the dmg lists is hard when you are dead.

[Eide]

My worst experience in WotLK was in Heroic Halls of Stone with a PuG. I was decently geared (cleared Naxx the day before). Right after I was invited the healer (a Druid) told us that this was going to be his first Heroic. Meanwhile the rogue and hunter were trashtalking their guildmates about how they had dared to critise their builds. Finally there was a mage who turned out to be very decent.

After lots of close calls (I think I used Shieldwall every third pull) we finally struggled out way to the Brann event. Two wipes later and the rogue and hunter are moaning at me that I stood in the fire (from which they both died themselves). I tell them I'll check my log and see that I didn't take any damage from that fire, and that our struggling (but nice) Druid can't keep up DPS who stand in thast fire.

Both of them went beserk in the partychat, calling me a noob etc etc.

They were pushing out 2k DPS.
Together.

/leave

[Clav]

I recently started levelling my alt shaman. I put myself in the queue for UK at 70 and only got it completed at level 74 after 2 days and 5 attempts. The failures were all down to awful awful pugs, I can't believe people can be so bad.

Attempt 1: Party leader invited 5 dps. A DK agreed to tank and a boomkin said he would heal. The healer then died every pull from healing aggro. I left before the 1st boss.
Attempt 2: 2 Dk's in the party, lvl 69 and 72. The 72 said he would tank but the 69 kept pulling aggro and the boomkin healer couldn't keep up both. 3 wipes at the trash before first boss. Bye Bye pug.
Attempt 3: Nobody would travel to the instance with me to summon.
Attempt 4: Again the group fell apart before the instance
Attempt 5: Went with an inexperienced and undergeared (11k hp!) tank... but he was really good. Had an elemental shaman healer, I had to help healing at times but we got through it with 1 wipe.

[Arvandor]

The sad part is that those instances are tuned to be taken by parties just entering out of Outlands.

My second time EVER healing was for the following group (every single person was almost entirely in quest greens, with a blue or two, except me, who was in AH drop greens and like 2 northrend greens, since I'd been feral before I decided to try resto). I was also the highest level person at level 72.

1. Warrior tank (I'm pretty sure he was an honest prot, even though he was clearly fresh from Outlands, gear-wise)
2. Dk dps
3. Hunter dps
4. Rogue dps
5. Druid heals (me, and new)

We walked through Utgarde Keep with little to no problems. We had some scary moments, and it was slow going, but we managed alright. I think I could have been restokin and/or the warrior could have been arms and we still would have managed.

How can people be bad at WoW I'll never understand, it boggles the mind.

[hyphenatedbren]

It's not "bad", it's lazy and it's getting worse.

I recently switched servers to see if I wanted to spring for a character transfer and rolled a itsy bitsy Gnome warrior. I've been tanking instances and everyone just expects to be carried through and with people beginning to use the account linked gear that's entirely possible. I went into the Stockade as DPS and my group was pulling whole hallways and AOEing them to bits. Are any of those players going to know how to function in a group where that's not possible?

I doubt it.

I've seen people who claimed to be fresh out of the box new players asking for run throughs rather than looking to form a group and take on an instance. I realize the mentality is that the game starts at 80 but levels 1-79 are about learning how to play and no one wants to take the time to do that. It's unfortunate.

[Muffin Man]

Source: Duriensbane Best one i got was a healer from some random guild, he was a troll shammie, asked if he could run with myself and my other 3 guildmates in UK real quick. I was like sure, hell, i can tank that place with my back and not die... First pull...i grab 3, he runs ahead drops tots, pulls 5 more, i pick it up, rip tide, lesser healing wave, and chain heal hit me for a combined 7k.....i took about 15k worth of damage, he noticed i hit my CD's, he high tails and runs....i die, i talk with him, he says sorry dude, normally if a tank aint geared enough for heroics i bail so i dont get a repair bill. Long story short, he spent about another 3 seconds in the group. Gear at that time, 2/5 heros, valorous gloves, and alot of 10man naxx loot. Armory showed me why he sucked...he was still wearing S2 and pulled more mobs then he could heal.

I thought this was a bad joke until the same thing happened to me. I was doing heroic Oculus, got on our drakes then our healer left to go play with guildies (I don't get that, unless it's something scheduled, finish what you're doing first? common courtesy isn't it? and if it is schedule don't pug 10 minutes ahead of time? Sorry different rant).

So we pugged this pally healer who'd obviously never done the instance. None of us had done it on heroic, so we wiped the first time on the boss figuring out the lightning cones. Second attempt was no problem at all.

Then 3rd boss. First trash pull I asked if everyone was ready, no one said anything and I saw 4 dots clustered around me on the minimap so I pulled. Turned out the healer was flying around on his drake - wipe. Second attempt I made sure everyone was around this time. We wiped with the healer having cast maybe 4 heals. The dps-ers asked the healer what was wrong with him, and the healer responds sorry you aren't geared for this and leaves... This was the day after I tanked Patchwerk too.

[Inaara]

I seem to have run into alot of idiot DK's and Ret pallies recently. The number 1 lol are the ret pallies that seem to think DPSing with Righteous Fury on is a good idea.

pally: "I died, you need to threat more"
Me: ""You died because I let you die."
pally: "Why did you let me die? you suck"
Me: "I thought you wanted to tank, isn't that why you had righteous fury up?"
pally : "No I have Righteous fury up so I take 6% less damage retard"

The entire group: "LOLOLOL"

Retarded pally has left the group.

[Xa3r0913]

I've had several issues, but one of my favorites was going into H UP for about the 5th time, a ret pally told me he had damage meter and was watching it to make sure i didn't fall below 1300 dps. I asked how much dps he averaged. His response? 1050....... Needless to say, I didn't even bother trying to run with them.

I'll answer questions about health, def rating, etc. but when dps is the only thing a group is concerned with in a tank, there is definitely something wrong.