
11-03-2009, 12:12 PM
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How do click healers deal with situations that require you to be very mobile / aware and heal at the same time? Fights like Fac Champs / Anub / Valks ... shoot pretty much all of them? Do you just keyboard turn and keep the heals coming via the mouse? | I have my click-to-heal interface off to the right-hand side of my screen. I see a lot of click-to-heal interfaces placed dead center in the screen (with transparency); I could never do that, it'd drive me nuts. I need a clear field of vision.
If I need to mouse turn quickly, it's just a slight movement of the mouse to get it off the healing interface and start turning. I also have my autorun key bound to a convenient location. If I don't need to turn on a dime, I'll keyboard steer. If I need to move out of something fast like a fire patch, I usually strafe or run forward (if safe).
Edit: I've also become very good at "handing off" movement control between the mouse and keyboard. I may turn and start runnign using the mouse, but then take over movement with the keyboard and go back to mouse click healing... then need to turn fast again and take over movement for a moment with the mouse. I don't really think about it anymore, I just do it automatically.
Last edited by Bashal; 11-03-2009 at 12:18 PM..
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11-03-2009, 06:59 PM
| | New Registrant | | Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4
| | Source: Mačl
Clique, Healbot and their ilk are the reason healers have forgotten how to heal. I'm deadly serious. Especially for priests. We have TONS of spells and we are so strong because we use them all.
First of all, why do you bind your healing skills to shift+something combos? Your left hand must feel like hell after a raid. I just tried to position my hand to that and I have to say that it is very uncomfortable.
If you are healing like this:
1) klick to select target
2) press key
Then there is one thing you can eliminate and speed up your reaction time:
replace your healing spells with target=mouseover
Like such
/cast [target=mouseover, help]Renew
The trick is to always have the bossmob selected and you simply hover your mousepointer over Grid while pressing the keys with your left hand.
You can also overload keys with multiple spells.
/cast [modifier:alt,target=player][target=mouseover,help]Renew
throws a heal on the target under your mouse(both directly on the screen or via Grid) and gives you Renew if you have ALT pressed.
With your WASD layout you can't comfortably press ALT, SHIFT,CTRL so I'd suggest something completely different. This also kills reaction time.
Get rid of WASD alltogether. All you need is a key to toggle autorun and do the steering with the mouse.
If you have superfluous and comfortably reachable programmable keys on your mouse bind those to SHIFT, ALT or CTRL.
And don't click twitch spells like Guardian Spirit.
Just try one of my suggestions. I'd start with target=mouseover. It shaves off quite some reaction time.
If you use Healbot/Clique you do give up half of your spells. Can't do that as a Priest. | I don't think you're forced to give up many spells at all. I haven't had any experience with priesting, but as a paladin I've got plenty of binding set up with grid + clique.
I use a standard two-button click-wheel mouse. This allows me:
Left click
Right click
Wheel click
Shift-Left click
Shift-Right click
Shift-Wheel click
Ctrl-Left click
Ctrl-Right click
Ctrl-Wheel click
Alt-Left click
Alt-Right click
Alt-Wheel click
That's twelve clickbinds right there, and assuming you use two of them for selecting the player and dropping down the secondary menu (I use Ctrl-Right and Ctrl-Left for that) you've still got ten binds.
Now remember that the only things to put on those binds are spells that you cast on someone: flash of light, holy light, divine shock, lay on hands, cleanse, bacon, sacred shield, et cetera, et cetera. Spells that you don't cast on anybody are still bound as usual to 1-4, q, e, r, f, and so on. I've got arcane torrent, divine plea, avenging wrath, bubble, divine favor, divine illumination, and my judgement all bound to keyboard keys.
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11-04-2009, 05:08 PM
| | New Registrant | | Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1
| | Source: Coro
(Holy Priest)
So, I've been healing since the good ol' days of Molten Core and whatnot. I took a break from healing and became tanking about half way through BC (almost begining of WOTLK) and have only just recently started coming back to healing because we have recruited some great tanks, and our healers in our guild have fallen short of expectations. I have always excelled at healing.
Yesterday, I was healing Twins in ToC25 (we have ToC10 on farm, this was our first week trying ToC25 as a guild and made it to twins) and was really struggling. I still topped the healing meters and wowed everyone because I haven't healed in so long, and most didn't know I could heal that well. Someone says to me in vent, "Yeah Healbot is just that amazing isn't it?" and my response was...."Wtf is healbot?"
Apparently, healbot makes a bad healer good. A good healer great. And a great healer simply amazing. Everyone that I have spoken to in the guild agrees, and some random pugs and friends I've made here and there.
Is healbot really that amazing? I know I can simply *try* it, but I've not used it ever before and have always topped it out. Is this an addon like decursive that is pretty much a "must have" (read: Most people really like it, I know it doesn't have 100% great things about it, no addon does)?
I currently use x-perl unitframes to make as kind of the "grid" thing. I also use key binding combos so that my left hand doesn't have to move, and is as followed (wsad to move):
shift f = Greater Heal
shift r = Renew
shift e = Flash heal
shift q = Prayer of Healing
shift c = Circle of Healing
shift v = Binding Healing
So, I keep my left pinky on shift, and I click Prayer of Mending and Guardian Spirit.
I know probably could have been placed in the UI addon blah blah section, but I'm wanting to know about it making a good healer great or whatnot in a healing aspect, and this just seemed to attract the "right" audience. | i am quite sick of these "healbot makes bad healers good" posts, i will say my 2 cents here because i dont like that tankspot got contaminated by it
you my friend are not an amazing healer, you are just a good at raiding because, like you stated you have been raiding since wow came out. so you have good situational awareness, quick reaction time, you know how close to stay to the fight without taking damage so you can be in range of dps and tanks, can tell whos out of range and get to him quickly, so you're a skilled raider, you can easily dps and call yourself amazing at that too
healbot makes healing a little easier but it doesnt make the player a good healer, experience makes a player a good healer
i recommend you use sdfe to move and wr to strafe, (i wonder what keys you use to strafe or if you strafe at all) the f key has that little notch there, so yeah just like you're typing you can just feel for it, setup is easy to get use to.
a multibutton mouse helps too, i have all my healing moves bound to my mouse via healbot, using only one modifier ALT, and those are rejuve, lifebloom, swiftmend, wildgrowth, regrowth, nourish, abolish poison, remove curse and i still have room for more
old timers will always think the old way of doing things is the best way, right now people think the old way is funny, come cataclysm they will roll their eyes
Last edited by scooptheroll; 11-04-2009 at 05:22 PM..
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11-05-2009, 01:18 PM
| | Meat-shield | | Join Date: May 2008
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To answer your strafe question, I hold down the right click mouse and side step, if you angle it right then it strafes. It sounds like its hard or odd, but I've been doing it for so long it's natural and can strafe much faster (or at least the same speed) as if I had a key. Aswd is the same as sdfe, it's just one over, and what I've been using since EQ and would have no reason to change that.
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