[klor]

I am looking for some advice on how to setup/rekeybind my entire tank setup for my n52. I'm tired of seeing it collect dust and with all the key useable abilities I feel it would come in handy more now than ever before. I have the N52 te edition so its a bit different than the standard one or so I've seen. I also have a logitech g5 mouse. It has the left and right scroll wheel tilt buttons, 2 thumb buttons (one of which is my vent button) and both left and right clickers. It also has 2 other buttons but they are too much of a pain to reach to even keybind to anything useful.


I basically want to alleviate my keyboard and i'm looking for some advice. I know a long time ago I remember either Lore or Fame posting a picture they had that showed exactly what each button on their n52 was setup for but I dont even remember where that image is now and no searches for n52 bring anything up on these forums.

Thanks

Klorry

[jettzypher]

map initially the keys 1 through = to whichever keys on the N52 are comfortable. then, use the thumb button and/or maybe the d-pad to map shift, ctrl, alt for modifiers. the others can be setup to anything else you may want at your finger tips. also, learn to move with the mouse only, this will open up more key options for you.

[klor]

I used to use the mouse for everything but backing up. Was never able to find a comfortable way to set that up...but since wotlk came out i've gotten lazy and have been using the keyboard to strafe as well

I'm currently going through a list of skills/consumables that I need to setup a keybind for versus ones i can comfortably click. I dont see a reason to have some trinkets or abilities keybound, and some i'd prefer not have keybound such as heroic strike and cleave. I might just redo all of it on my own and setup an image incase any else wishes to do it in the future.... though to be honest I rarely hear about people using N52s anymore...or perhaps they already just have theirs setup.

[jettzypher]

i do the same when feeling lazy (which is most of the time lately), right click+asd.

many circumstances around the gamepads. i dont use one unless im playing solo and no ones on to talk to. and even though we use vent most of the time, i like to type my thoughts instead of speakin them (makes me feel like im talking to myself). therefore, i dont like having to move back and forth between keyboard and game pad. i also have a logitech g15 keyboard (the original before they nerfed it) so i use the 18 spare keys on the side as my "game pad" more often than not.

also, key bindings should never be too complicated, at least for warriors (cant speak for others, but im sure they have a larger library of spells and abilities). 1 through = should give almost every primary ability any one warrior should need a home, with the most important ones starting from 1. all the secondary things can be setup for use with a modifier or by clicking (which i dont think theres much wrong with, unless you click everything).

if ya want, when i get off work in the morning, ill pull my old n52 out of the drawer and take a look at it, see what type of layout i had and give some actual valuable pointers.</p>

[downset]

once u get used to the n52te, you will never go back,

i use mouse to turn, the joystick from n52 to strafe and back up and, all 14 keys from the n52 for my most used abilities, everything else i just klick with mouse,

this setup works amazing, i am more mobile than ever,
i can run and still cast everything, i can strafe tank,

the n52 is amazing for wow, but take the time to get used to the joystick, so you free up the other keys, you wont believe how much easier you move around

this is how my bartender4 setup looks:



the big buttons are the n52te keys, top left i use to tab, the 3 buttons next to it are the scroll wheel

i use the row above for trinkets and panic buttons,

i have some more bars to the right for things i use less

like i said i can't tank without, i never was able to move as i should with WASD on the keyboard and use abilities at the same time, the n52 joystick is amazing

as you can see in my bartender setup, i strongly believe, that by setting up the bars in the same visual layout as the actual keys helps me greatly when twitch reacting to something, its basic UI knowledge (a lot of console games do this to great effect, e.g, zelda wind walker on gamecube)

if anyone cares i use it on a mac, together with a Steel Series Ikari mouse and they both work great

if i can help with anything n52 related just ask me...

[downset]

not really related, but i hardly use tab anymore, although i still have it set up, i mostly select mobs by clicking their nameplate, is faster for me, (no cycling through the mobs)

[jettzypher]

the hat switch is pretty cool. i have a saitek pro-gamer command unit which has one and movement with it is so fluid.

i find tabbing through targets to be bad sometimes. wind up targeting something out of range, a sheeped mob, or w/e. its too easy just to click, the cursor is usually right there anyways.

[Philistine]

I found that the easiest way for me to get into using the N52 was to start leveling an alt and use it from the begining.

This got me used to using it and meant I didnt have to unlearn anything.

Then one day I just switched on my main. Spent a quick 30 mins setting keys up and was up and running without a backward glance or a stumble.

[Nardd]

Downset - I really like your layout for the n52 I think I may try mirroring that for mine since I've had such a tough time getting used to it. For the bars that are to the right of the n52 buttons do you have those bound to mouse buttons?

[WBill]

My only gripe about the N52 (and I'm using one of the earlier ones) is that I need just one more key...

After playing around with a lot of different setups I ended up going with the following layout for the main keys:

5 6 7 8 Esc
1 2 3 4 Tab
lShift 0 - =

1. Orange button is Ctrl for Vent mostly.
2. DPad is movement
3. Scroll Click is Autorun
4. Layout Shift is space

With one more button I'd have kept '9 bound 'cause it's really two key bindings I lose when it's missing. The problem is I know I can't live without Esc, Shift, Tab and Space in my solo endeavors and being silent in vent (or having a long delay while I reach out to toggle chat on) just isn't an option.

My N52 is prbably about 4 or 5 years old now so the Scroll Wheel has lost some of it's accuracy ... if yours is smooth consider binding Tab to scroll up and Shift+Tab to scroll down. That'll give you better targetting access and should free up one key in the main numberpad.

[downset]

i see the scrollwheel as 3 more keys as i hardly use tab any more, but if you do tab is a very good tip.
i have the same feeling, that the N52te doesn't have enough buttons, there always seems to be one more thing you want to put on there
however i got the n52 because i would get lost on my keyboard, and would miss too many buttons in hectic situations, so i think the main thing to do is prioritise if they would add a lot more buttons, i could just as well use my keyboard

Nardd - i have two more buttons on my mouse, 1 for intervene on mouseover and one for autorun

all the smaller items to the left of the scrollwheel keybinds i use with the mouse, since you move around with the little joystick its quite easy to use the mouse to click lesser used items, make sure to bind strafe on the joystick and not turn, turn with the mouse

[klor]

It took me a very long while to get my N52TE setup to a way I found to be quite comfortable for me. I am still adapting to it, but this is the best way I've found for setting it up thus far.

01 - Q // Spell Reflect
02 - 6 // Shield Bash // Alt Toggle - Disarm
03 - 1 // Taunt // Alt Toggle - Challenging Shout
04 - X // Charge // Alt Toggle - Intervene
05 - R // Autorun
06 - Tab
07 - 2 // Shield Slam // Alt Toggle - Shockwave
08 - 3 // Revenge // Alt Toggle - Thunderclap
09 - 4 // Devastate // Alt Toggle - Concussion Blow
10 - F // Berserker Rage // Alt Toggle - Intimidating Shout
11 - Z // Heroic Throw // Alt Toggle - Demo Shout
12 - A // Strafe Left
13 - S // Back up // Alt Toggle - I keybound this to one of the mods in Xav's UI that allows for easy marking of targets. I do not remember the name of it.
14 - D // Strafe Right

I have the Little black button on the thumb setup as my alt key which is what the second list is set as for each of the buttons. I found it easier for me to click my cleave and heroic strike buttons while also clicking my oh shit buttons. If you've seen a picture of Xav's UI, I modified it the -slightest- bit placing my cleave and heroic strike bar just to the top of his bar right in the middle that only shows up during combat. All my oh shit buttons are right there on the bar in the middle along with trinkets and such and the little bar below that to the left that only shows up when you hover over it conceals my battle/commanding/vigilance buttons. I've not went through to setup my stance dancing just yet, but I assume that when I do, I'll be using the d-pad for this or possibly the scroll wheel. My only issue with the scroll wheel, however, is that its slightly awkward to press with my fingers for the middle scroll key. I also have the button along the bottom that is used to toggle key mappings set up as space bar.

My mouse itself has left and right click, tilting scroll wheel (which adds 3 more buttons if you counting the click of the scroll wheel) and two buttons on the thumb. The far back button for the thumb is set as my vent button, the closer one my run button (or w) the scroll tilt are my left and right strafe as well (redundant, i know, but there are times i just cannot strafe with only my mouse or keyboard depending on what I am doing.) I at one time had set my middle scroll wheel button as my jump, until I died on kel'thuzaud because I went to strafe out of a void, but jumped straight up then started strafing (which of course makes you move VERY slowly). I quickly unbound that button.


Edit:

For those not quite sure of my mappings above, this is how the N52TE is setup.

01 02 03 04 05
06 07 08 09 10
11 12 13 14

[Pitstarter]

The N52 in whatever guise is full of win, I'm on my third one now, been using them since WoW was released. Not that they are poor build quality, more me destroying whatever key I had bound to sunder/devastate at the time. I mailed an old one to a fellow guild tank to try out and asked him to guess which was sunder...

I'm sure I can do my layout better but this is what I am most used to. I can do an entire raid without having to take my hands off the pad or mouse unless I need to type or have a scratch, as it were.

I'll try and explain the layout a bit here, it's a bit of a universal setup so I can use whatever character I am playing without any hassle and it's intuitive (at least to me). I've tied 6 of the buttons to the currently active hotbar 1-6 and use the hat for switching between hotbars.

01 - hotbar action 1
02 - hotbar action 2
03 - forwards
04 - hotbar action 3
05 - hotbar action 4
06 - hotbar action 6
07 - turn left (used with RMB down I strafe)
08 - backwards
09 - turn right (as per 07)
10 - hotbar action 5
11 - tied to alt-key (I have alt-mod macros for rage dumps on warrior)
12 - shift (looting, and to see who that random whispering me is before replying)
13 - sit
14 - character sheet

Space - jump
Hat up - Shift & cursor up (changes active hotbar)
Hat down - shift & cursor down (as per above)
hat 'away' - shift & tab (change hostile target)
hat 'towards you' - tab
'missile file button' - F (target targets-target)
mouse wheel down - pretty redundant
mouse wheel up - pretty redundant

This leaves action bar buttons 7 onwards for things I don't quite use as often as everything else, such as battle/commanding shouts and so on.

So, with any character I use, I can just drop all the commonly used abilities into slots 1-6 on the the hotbars, and through repetition and awareness I can access pretty much any ability by use of the 6 buttons around the movement buttons.

[Lore]

I didn't like using the d-pad for movement, so I use it for skills and keep WASD/QE movement on the keypad.

Here's my setup. This is with a picture of the old n52 but I've upgraded to the TE since then (and if you're still using the old n52... you should seriously consider upgrading, the TE is much better).



~: vent PTT (not bound to anything ingame)
T: Flip Camera
1-= and shift+1-=: Skilz
Shift-Tab: target focus
Shift-T: set focus

[Alent]

What advantages are there to the TE? I'm running the same N52 in the screen there and it hasn't died or failed so I don't quite see the point in replacing it yet.

[klor]

Source: Alent What advantages are there to the TE? I'm running the same N52 in the screen there and it hasn't died or failed so I don't quite see the point in replacing it yet.

I think it offers a larger degree in which macros you can run off the N52 from the software side. It also has quicker response...plus it has the amazing blue keyboard lights!

[orcstar]

And in my experience the N52TE is better for your wirsts then a normal keyboard.

[Doc309]

hmmm,

i'm using the n52te ( with the semi-broken mac driver) and a 7 button mouse for all of my alts... tank, 2 dps at 80, and a healer on the way


thumb button one on mouse vent
thumb button two on mouse IHML addon ... I has macro LOL, uses quest/zone/target item as appropriate.

button one on n52 always starter...
button 2 always next priority cast.
button14
always jump ( idk why i use it so much...)
round button always bound to gogomount (addon) mounts or dismounts flyable or not...
button 15, shift modifier
shift 1-9 bound to possession bar jousting etc...
d-pad movement ( strafe rather than turn ) mouse turn when strafe not appropriate.
etc.

keybinds on action bars ( here's the hard part ) same for all toons, regardless of stance or spec. main bars have to change... i use bartender for this.

2 bars set to act as possession, and page with spec/stance. three other bars ... for clicking, not bound to n52 keys. keybind shift 1-10 for same slot on bars 1 and two. mount for a joust ... shift 4 is shield ...

not counting the mount/dismount, shift, and jump buttons. i have 16 most commonly used casts without moving my hands or mouse. the wheel on the n52 can be mapped to 3 keys ...
if i used the 6 and 7 buttons (pinky side) on my mouse, to map alt and control ... that would be 48 different clicks without removing my hand from my mouse or n52....

Do you REALLY need more than this...

Doc.

[Magnuss]

Holy necro'd thread Klor

[klor]

Source: Magnuss Holy necro'd thread Klor

My roommate just bought an N52.. and I remembered I had posted this, so I linked it to him then saw Alent's unanswered question. My OCD made me answer it :-x