[Elyvern]

Source: Ciderhelm This gives you a chance to go through the later content, if that's your desire, either by pushing content very hard with your current guild, or applying to a guild at or near that level of content. Maybe not your goals, but they've given you the potential to do it.

Oh well, not much chance of that. My main is a mage raiding SWP, I recently moved my warrior to a SSC/TK casual raiding guild to MT for them. Raiding 6 nights, 2 weekend afternoon a week is taking a toil but I discovered tanking in TBC and am rabid about it. Unfortunately I can't change mains, so I take whatever I can for my poor tank. I suspect it's a matter of being denied a chance to do higher content that goads me to push my warrior further than most people would do with their alts.

[Fort]

As the third person to ask in this thread, will these numbers hold up for Pally/Druid tanks? If not, where can we find these numbers?

Edit: If this is only for Warrior tanks, I'd suggest/request that the original post is edited to reflect that under the "This is accurate under the following conditions:" portion.

[Kazeyonoma]

This is primarily for warrior tanks although I can't see why a paladin tank might not be within the same reaches (maybe a bit more avoidance a little less EH?).

Retitling is not necessary as this thread is located in the Warrior-Reference forum.

[Satrina]

Indeed. It'd be great if we had some enterprising paladin and druid tanks who could help out with their class-specific versions of this sort of thing.

[Bogota]

Source: Kazeyonoma This is primarily for warrior tanks although I can't see why a paladin tank might not be within the same reaches (maybe a bit more avoidance a little less EH?). Retitling is not necessary as this thread is located in the Warrior-Reference forum.

At the risk of being redundant, I think the confusion comes not from this guide but from the calculator itself which lists EH for Warrior, Paladin, and Druid making it appear as if one could compare the EH of all three classes using the same calculator. I don't believe this guide needs to be renamed; I do believe the calculator needs a caveat that the numbers you get for each class are NOT equal.

[Ciderhelm]

Source: Fort As the third person to ask in this thread, will these numbers hold up for Pally/Druid tanks? If not, where can we find these numbers? Edit: If this is only for Warrior tanks, I'd suggest/request that the original post is edited to reflect that under the "This is accurate under the following conditions:" portion.

This is in the "Warrior Reference" section of the site. However, it's linked directly from the main page. I'll add a caveat.

Also, yes, this should be accurate for Paladins, though obvious gearing differences would take place (i.e. reaching the total avoidance/block requirements to be uncrushable).

Source: Bogota At the risk of being redundant, I think the confusion comes not from this guide but from the calculator itself which lists EH for Warrior, Paladin, and Druid making it appear as if one could compare the EH of all three classes using the same calculator. I don't believe this guide needs to be renamed; I do believe the calculator needs a caveat that the numbers you get for each class are NOT equal.

I guess I'm not sure why the calculator would need any more information. It's only to find out your own stats quickly.

[Fort]

Source: Kazeyonoma Retitling is not necessary as this thread is located in the Warrior-Reference forum.

Sorry for the confusion. I did not mean to imply that the thread title was inaccurate. I was thrown off by the fact that the original post stated:

This is accurate under the following conditions: You are a main tank or are regularly tanking the hardest physical damage encounters; You are with a raiding group with equivalent gear; You will continue to gain gear regularly as you progress through the zones.

Nowhere does it mention that it does not apply to druid and pally tanks. Both that and that the main page links to this post were sources of my confusion.

Thanks for the clarification, Cinderhelm.

[csmgt]

Thank you. This is incredibly useful information.

I am still relatively new at this - am just now raiding early Kara bosses. Having done just a few heroics (with inconsistent results), I am always wondering if my success is due to my gear and skill or just having a remarkably good healer and great dps. At the same time, when things go badly, I leave wondering whether my abilities and gear are not up to the task or whether the healer was having an off day.

This is the first information that I have run across to help me objectively assess this. I appreciate it.

[Gigga]

This is cool worked really well for me

[Psynikal]

Should this say 5.6% crit reduction required instead of 490 defense?
I currently have 479 + 20 resilience (5.67% crit reduction) and 42% avoidance.
I'm not arguing resilience over defense; I'm just saying that the inherit avoidance that defense adds is covered in the avoidance minimums column.
Its just hard to convince people that I'm uncrit-able because all they know is that somebody told them you need 490 defense.
Also thanks for the guide, I use it and the calculator every time I get a new piece of gear.

[Kazeyonoma]

Noted. I'll make a quick change to it.

[Grulgor]

What's Block value? Block rating or simply the block percentage? ..Or something else?

[Kothoga]

Source: Grulgor What's Block value? Block rating or simply the block percentage? ..Or something else?

I have been wondering what that is myself...anyone that care to explain what it means?

[phaze]

Source: Grulgor What's Block value? Block rating or simply the block percentage? ..Or something else?

Blocking

[Kazeyonoma]

Block Value is the innate stat the comes on every shield labeled "Block" but through gear you can also achieve higher #'s than just that. Put frankly, it is the amount of damage you absorb from a hit when you block an attack. It also correlates directly to your Shield Slam damage, and therefore your threat.

[coup321]

According to this I can tank t6 content? I highly doubt this.... somebody please explain

The World of Warcraft Armory

[Ciderhelm]

Source: coup321 According to this I can tank t6 content? I highly doubt this.... somebody please explain The World of Warcraft Armory

According to your current Armory page, no, you don't meet the Avoidance minimums. Provided you were going in buffed, yes, you could tank early bosses in T6. They are not difficult in terms of gearing.

[Daimon]

but is weird, because in my case the numbers put me in T5 before vashj according to EH, and I tank her pretty ez. In avoidance I'm in BT before Illidan. That's using a generic MT gear, but my EH one don't differ much from that.

[Kazeyonoma]

Then it's possible you're stacking too much avoidance at the expense of your EH.

[Daimon]

I don't think so, my armor is decent and I reach 21k buffed, 16k+ UB. i think thats more than enough for T5, not sure for Kael, haven't try him yet.