[metalfiend84]

Just tossing around the notion of changing my specc around and going for a cleave spec for more AoE capabilities. This is the spec that i came up with The World of Warcraft Armory
I'm basically just looking for feedback and input on whether its even worth doing. I mean I still keep all the essentials, just loose full imp commanding and battle shouts but in raids their not that huge anyway if a pally with imp might is there where thats the case in my raids, and i can aslways take 2 points from imp zerker rage if not having full commanding presence.

[Ronninn]

I use the cleave spec, and just replaced the glyph of execute for cleave, and I'm hardly ever used for commanding or battle shout anyhow. You still have the regular one to use, though.

On 2 or more targets it's a huge dps increase to replace your herioc strikes with Cleave, just make sure you have around 10 more rage than you would have for the Herioc Strike rage dumps or you'll be starved. On single targets continue using HS at it's dps is greater, and your bloodsurge (instant slam) will proc more since Cleave doesn't proc it.

[MellvarTank]

The only question I would have is for one of the number crunchers out there.... how much damage would you lose from the loss of slam procs on the multiple mobs vs. the amount you gain from the improved cleave?

[Vern]

Because my guild has no rogues or other warriors, I go fury for our heroic Anub kills each week. I use a similar spec as you can see here, with furious attacks in lieu of rampage for the healing debuff - as we bring a feral druid to provide the crit buff. The feral druid and I simply cleave each wave of adds dead letting the rest of our dps focus on Anub. By doing so, I almost always top the meters:



Not bad for an off-spec'ed protection warrior.

[Kaioken]

It's interesting how you have Improved Berserker Rage in your spec. The one you linked would not be considered a "normal" spec given the points out of commanding presence, but it would be interesting to see how that would affect rage generation and to keep yourself from being starved.

Unbridled Wrath would somewhat be useful for rage generation as well, because even though UW only procs on white hits, Cleave only converts your main hand swings to yellow attacks, leaving your offhand very capable of procing UW a lot. If you were to get 5/5 however, you'd have to completely drop Commanding Presence. Personally, I really don't have a problem keeping good rage through cleaving, and if I do run dry I'll just bloodrage to keep it going. I guess the question I have is... 5/5 UW or 2/2 IBR for better overall rage generation? If you look my character's spec up, I intended the spec for 3/3 Imp. Cleave and found that to be the best for me (my crit is really high so I don't have a need for either UW or IBR).