Do you realize nomo that your attitude is pretty much guaranteeing that no matter what you say people will ignore it? You have become so obnoxious that your tone has completely destroyed any credibility you might have once possessed.

I have been Fury Warrior for 2 years and based on trying to be recruited for Arena teams I have switched over to Arms. (yes, I know this is Arms PVE discussion but the knowledge base is outstanding that you provide) Which is better for me with 1100-1300 latency- Fury 2 handed (Slam rotation) or Arms MS (Slam rotation)?

Thanks.

Latency is high based on my deployment to Iraq, in 4 months it will be better but till then it is what it is.

definitely don't go for an arms slam build if you have bad latency. you have to time your slams immediately after white hits, and if your latency can put you as much as 1 second behind the actual swing, you're effectively adding 1 second to your swing timer. not worth it imo, stick with fury.

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I am an Arms warrior on the Server Deathwing for Inertia 4/6 SWP. One things i notice with most your guys' specs is that you get Unbridled Wrath on the fury tree. Since your main role is supposed to be buffing physical damage you should also pick up imp demo instead. It will allow warlocks to put up Curse of Recklesness and give the raid the 800 armor pen as well.

This is the spec i use.
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I normally suggest imp demo or Booming Voice instead of the 1 rage talent. It's great for Fury because you swing so many times but for a big slow 2hander like ours, it doesn't pay off.

I agree, Unbridled Wrath is trash for two handers. Imp Demo is definitely better, and booming voice keeping up longer shouts is beneficial in its own way as well.

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Ya also just remember that when you switch to your 2 fast weapons, if your sword spec which you most likely are, try to make sure your MH weapon is a sword so you still get the extra swing proc, really makes a difference in execute range.

I'm new to PvE Arms, as I'm generally Prot for raiding, but I like to spec dps for Kara farm runs.

At any rate, I was wondering why you wouldn't que up Heroic Strike on your auto attacks, with enough rage, and still Slam on the timer?

Slam doesn't have a timer, so you'll never do it.

Meeks i think later corrected himself that he can Heroic Strike when you have like... 50+ rage.

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I meant the Quartz timer.

I was thinking that if you are waiting for the auto attack to time your Slams, why can't that auto attack be a Heroic Strike, when at 50+ rage?

that's exactly right. if you have over 50 rage, then sure you can probably heroic strike slam, the problem then is that because it becomes a heroic strike, you generate no rage that rotation, so your next white hit, will generate only enough rage to slam, if it crits, maybe slam + extra rage but not enough to carry a whirlwind/MS.

That's normally the problem with doing HS at 50 rage, if you're at 70rage it's much safer.

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Awesome, thanks for the info.

Hello. I am an arms warrior, and I just recently joined a MH guild.
My crit is only at about 28% in berserker stance, which I think is rather low, so I'm looking into an axe.
So basically my question is: Harbringer ( 150 badge-reward )/s2 axe or s1/s2 sword, with my current crit?
I was thinking that the Harbringer has a higher average damage, and I'd gain around 6% crit, putting me even closer to 100% flurry uptime.
The sword, on the other hand, has a lower average damage, but the extra attack is pretty... Nice :P

My stats are:

0 ArP ( ouch, I know, getting s3 chest next week )
Hitcapped
~1700 AP unbuffed

Swords will be better overall DPS in the long run, but because the Blade is a much higher ilvl than s2 sword, I'd go with the Blade of Harbingers.

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Yeah, seems like a good idea. And I'm kind of a big-yellow-crit ehm *cough*whore*cough* :P
So axe spec will provide more crit.

If Cat's Edge drops for you though, you'll probably want to make the switch to use that instead. Cat's Edge is just godly.

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Yes, I'll definetely do that. But for now I don't see that guild downing Archimonde. We're working on third boss together with another guild atm.

I personally rarely que up the heroic strike unless its on a fight like muru or felmyst where your constantly taking damage to feed you rage. Its just more important to make sure you have the rage to go threw your slam cycle instead of doing heroic strikes.

Last time I used quartz, it's swing timer was rather terrible. Especially for warriors, and specifically for Slam.

It may have been changed to be more precise, but LD50_abar is absolutely perfect for Slam, and DWing warrs, and probably just about anyone who wants or needs to watch their swing times.

It's precise, and it works. It may not be as 'pretty' as quartz. But it does it's job.

You can use whichever one you need, I like quartz because it takes into account latency and thus I can time my swings well with it, but I've never tried your addon, so I can't shoot it down =]

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